Best CF post-Henry?

[DJ_Markstar]

Lacazette went on like a 4 month goal drought and everyone treated him like a make a wish kid once he finally scored.

Havertz would’ve been chased out the country if he did the same thing.

Lacazette was such a weird player when you think about the goals he scored.

He looked like a league 2 striker against bottom half clubs and then as soon as a top 6 team rolls in he scores an absolute worldie, did it so many times it was frankly weird. The one against a top Liverpool comes to mind, absolutely incredible finish after it looked like the chance had gone.

Scored some top goals against Sp**s etc. as well.

 

[BenTal]

he was one of the best forwards in the league then.

I stopped here. He was never Lacazette, was always Lacashit. Dude was a 50m striker those days. Absolute flop

 

[shoot for the top]

Lacazette was quite slow, but that only became an issue when Arteta turned him into a complete workhorse...Laca is a great team player so would happily do it, but didn't have the speed to do that and get in the box and score.

But if you give him a bit more freedom like Emery did in 2018/2019, allowing him to not constantly be pressing (think even Mourinho said Laca should be played more up front rather than drop too deep too) he was one of the best forwards in the league then.

We had prime Aibe scoring 31 goals and winning the golden boot that season, but fans still picked Laca as our POTY as he was great for us... scored v Napoli and Valencia in Europe, scored v Liverpool/Chelsea/Sp**s/United in the League...got over double figures in assists too.

Maybe if we got Kai straight from Leverkusen, as apparently he looks a different player pre Chelsea...but if you are asking me to pick between the Kai we have or the Laca we had...I am picking 18/19 Lacazette anyday, was on like half the wage of Havertz too ffs.

People don’t even realize Laca was held back during Arteta’s reign. With Teta, Laca had less shots than he ever had at Arsenal.

 

[Trilly]

Lacazette was such a weird player when you think about the goals he scored.

He looked like a league 2 striker against bottom half clubs and then as soon as a top 6 team rolls in he scores an absolute worldie, did it so many times it was frankly weird. The one against a top Liverpool comes to mind, absolutely incredible finish after it looked like the chance had gone.

Scored some top goals against Sp**s etc. as well.

Always have time for a striker that can actually shoot.

 

[db10_therza]

I think Havertz is better than Lacazette. It’s marginal but I think he’s just a tiny bit better. Both pretty ass when it comes to finishing (Laca a little better) but Havertz’s work rate adds a lot of value whether you like it or not.

I am fully aware of the barrage of **** that is gonna come my way for saying that.

 

[DJ_Markstar]

Always have time for a striker that can actually shoot.

Also just the willingness to shoot, for all his flaws Lacazette was definitely not shot shy

 

[DJ_Markstar]

I think Havertz is better than Lacazette. It’s marginal but I think he’s just a tiny bit better. Both pretty ass when it comes to finishing (Laca a little better) but Havertz’s work rate adds a lot of value whether you like it or not.

I am fully aware of the barrage of **** that is gonna come my way for saying that.

Lacazette's shooting technique was miles better than Havertz, its not even close. But yeah as overall players I'm taking Havertz tbh.

 

[Rain Dance]

Lacazette went on like a 4 month goal drought and everyone treated him like a make a wish kid once he finally scored.

Havertz would’ve been chased out the country if he did the same thing.

including Arteta?

 

[Trilly]

Both pretty ass when it comes to finishing (Laca a little better) but Havertz’s work rate adds a lot of value whether you like it or not.

Should have stuck to work rate and intangibles. You’ve pissed me off and I’m tagging @Macho so he sees this sh*t if he ever returns.

There’s no way Kai hits 25+ goals playing in France as a proper striker. No way.

You’re comparing Lacazette at 5-8th place Arsenal to Kai at 2nd place Arsenal. You make me sick.

 

[BigPoppaPump]

Should have stuck to work rate and intangibles. You’ve pissed me off and I’m tagging @Macho so he sees this sh*t if he ever returns.

There’s no way Kai hits 25+ goals playing in France as a proper striker. No way.

You’re comparing Lacazette at 5-8th place Arsenal to Kai at 2nd place Arsenal. You make me sick.

Lacazette is why Arsenal were 5-8th place though, but you'd never judge him as harshly as Havertz.

 

[Trilly]

Lacazette is why Arsenal were 5-8th place though, but you'd never judge him as harshly as Havertz.

 

[db10_therza]

Should have stuck to work rate and intangibles. You’ve pissed me off and I’m tagging @Macho so he sees this sh*t if he ever returns.

There’s no way Kai hits 25+ goals playing in France as a proper striker. No way.

You’re comparing Lacazette at 5-8th place Arsenal to Kai at 2nd place Arsenal. You make me sick.

I miss him too

I think if you swap Kai for Lacazette in this team we don’t get as many points. And I’ll stand by that. Sickness notwithstanding.

And as you know I’m no fan of Kai…

 

[boonthegoon]

Should have stuck to work rate and intangibles. You’ve pissed me off and I’m tagging @Macho so he sees this sh*t if he ever returns.

There’s no way Kai hits 25+ goals playing in France as a proper striker. No way.

You’re comparing Lacazette at 5-8th place Arsenal to Kai at 2nd place Arsenal. You make me sick.

Will firmino ever score 20+ anywhere? Is lacazette better than firmino?

I'm not saying Kai = firmino. But stats just aren't everything. Our team is better with kai than lacazette.

 

[OnlyOne]

I miss him too

I think if you swap Kai for Lacazette in this team we don’t get as many points. And I’ll stand by that. Sickness notwithstanding.

And as you know I’m no fan of Kai…

If you got a 24/25 year olf Laca think he'd do really well. It's probably a difficult one to judge, they both joined Arsenal in very different circumstances and teams.

I'm not a fan at all of Kai, but people over do it because of his Chelsea roots imo and I guess that's okay.

 

[db10_therza]

If you got a 24/25 year olf Laca think he'd do really well. It's probably a difficult one to judge, they both joined Arsenal in very different circumstances and teams.

I'm not a fan at all of Kai, but people over do it because of his Chelsea roots imo and I guess that's okay.

Yeah that’s fair - I can’t say I was familiar with “peak” lacazette.

I’m not saying work rate >>> btw. Like if it was Aubameyang vs Havertz in this team I have no doubt Auba would get us more points. Even without the work rate his overall game as striker was immense. But the Arsenal version of Lacazette for me just didn’t have enough to justify his lack of mobility.

 

[OnlyOne]

People should go watch some of Lacazettes goals this season, his movement is phenomenal.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

Laca was benched for Nketiah for his final half season.

 

[Trilly]

Will firmino ever score 20+ anywhere? Is lacazette better than firmino?

I'm not saying Kai = firmino. But stats just aren't everything. Our team is better with kai than lacazette.

I think if you swap Kai for Lacazette in this team we don’t get as many points. And I’ll stand by that. Sickness notwithstanding.

I don’t disagree, our team is also better with Kai than Auba (before he aged). One of the best strikers of his generation.

That tells me that it’s the striker role that’s the problem, not the players.

Laca was benched for Nketiah for his final half season.

Again this says more about the requirements of a striker at Arsenal. Not saying Laca was some top striker but leaving Arsenal and going on to score something like 50 in France the next couple seasons says a lot about how we use strikers. Also says a lot that our best two Arsenal strikers have been guys who aren’t strikers.

 

[boonthegoon]

I don’t disagree, our team is also better with Kai than Auba (before he aged). One of the best strikers of his generation.

That tells me that it’s the striker role that’s the problem, not the players.

Again this says more about the requirements of a striker at Arsenal. Not saying Laca was some top striker but leaving Arsenal and going on to score something like 50 in France the next couple seasons says a lot about how we use strikers. Also says a lot that our best two Arsenal strikers have been guys who aren’t strikers.

I agree about it for auba. But lacazette really didn't do much even under Wenger. He was one of our worst players in that semi vs 10 men atletico (where auba wasn't allowed to play). Emery got a tune out of him for a season but that's pretty much it

 

[GDeep™]

Will firmino ever score 20+ anywhere? Is lacazette better than firmino?

I'm not saying Kai = firmino. But stats just aren't everything. Our team is better with kai than lacazette.

Would you say the same about Auba/Kai, in this team? I think Auba presents some of the same issues people raise about Laca.

But saying Kai over Auba would sound absolutely diabolical.