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Rex Stone

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His agent is not kia but Bertolucci someone edu know very well too.

They’re still Kia clients.

He’s not allowed to be a football agent and represent clubs so all the Bertolucci clients are basically his by proxy.

Look down the list and you’ll see the likes of David Luiz and Oscar.
 

Barry

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Do we actually have funds to buy anyone in this window?
You wouldn't think so, but surely we are bringing in a CM if AMN is leaving in loan... The Vlahovic rumours are nuts though. Pretty decent sources as well.
 
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Sebastes

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@Sebastes you were pretty keen on him last summer, why have you changed your mind - Lyon's league position making you think twice? He's still a statistical hero.
Was I? Think I said he'd be okay tbh. I was high on him the summer of 2020, but you weren't around then? Or were you..? :shivering:

Regarding why I've changed my mind - yeah it's a lot to do with him not being a consistent starter last season iirc and this season he's been a more consistent starter and the team isn't doing too well.
 

Barry

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Was I? Think I said he'd be okay tbh. I was high on him the summer of 2020, but you weren't around then? Or were you..? :shivering:

Regarding why I've changed my mind - yeah it's a lot to do with him not being a consistent starter last season iirc and this season he's been a more consistent starter and the team isn't doing too well.
There seems to be a persistent rumour that I am Say Yes. Now don't get me wrong, I like boot cut jeans & The Sopranos as much as the next man, but whatever crazy gossip is circulating on the Trusted Forum, I can assure you all that this is not the case. I have been reading Arsenal Mania for far too long though (maybe since like 2006/2007 ish) so you guys all seem like good friends to me already!

Anyway, in the post I was responding to, you said last summer that you were "All Up for him (ie. Guimaraes)" so was just wondering about that. Yeah I don't know what to make about Lyon either, they have stacks of talent though, I think it's a coaching issue probably rather than a reflection on the players.
 

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There seems to be a persistent rumour that I am Say Yes. Now don't get me wrong, I like boot cut jeans & The Sopranos as much as the next man, but whatever crazy gossip is circulating on the Trusted Forum, I can assure you all that this is not the case. I have been reading Arsenal Mania for far too long though (maybe since like 2006/2007 ish) so you guys all seem like good friends to me already!

Anyway, in the post I was responding to, you said last summer that you were "All Up for him (ie. Guimaraes)" so was just wondering about that. Yeah I don't know what to make about Lyon either, they have stacks of talent though, I think it's a coaching issue probably rather than a reflection on the players.
Lol, yeah I think you'll have to live with that tbh :lol:

I actually missed the post. I said earlier in the summer that he's decent and then I probably grew more and more frustrated with the lack of (good) cm links :lol:

In essence it's kind of still the same - it's not a good signal for me that they were doing well when he played a smaller part and now when he's starting much more they're not doing too well. He has very good stats though, maybe a bit iffy when it comes to the defensive side but that could well be because of team setup/tactics.

At this point I'm not against anyone I think
 

Rex Stone

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There seems to be a persistent rumour that I am Say Yes. Now don't get me wrong, I like boot cut jeans & The Sopranos as much as the next man, but whatever crazy gossip is circulating on the Trusted Forum, I can assure you all that this is not the case. I have been reading Arsenal Mania for far too long though (maybe since like 2006/2007 ish) so you guys all seem like good friends to me already!

Anyway, in the post I was responding to, you said last summer that you were "All Up for him (ie. Guimaraes)" so was just wondering about that. Yeah I don't know what to make about Lyon either, they have stacks of talent though, I think it's a coaching issue probably rather than a reflection on the players.

Shots at the Illuminati-esque Trusted section…

 

drippin

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Here's some data on how different midfielders that could be potential targets compare
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Guimaraes looks good in these too. Kamara would be a lot cheaper because of his contract, but he doesn't have as good stats and is not as good at passing and attacking.

So it all depends on our funds. I think we need two midfielders in January + Summer, and the other one likely upgrades Xhaka.

Maybe they have money for Guimaraes now + a top midfielder in the summer? I doubt it, but maybe they do. Of course Kamara would be free in the summer, but are these two good enough upgrades?
 

drippin

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At least something. We tried to get him from Brazil, but he chose Lyon. It was a wise career decision imo, tells about the player. He has also said that he wants to play in EPL.

Lyon paid 20 million for him 2 years ago, and his earlier club will get 20 % of next transfer fee. Lyon seem to want 40-45 million euros.

It seems the profile we want for all non-AMF midfield players is similar to Partey and Sambi. Players who are of the DMF/CMF mold, capable in both, but technical and fast enough. And 182 cm or more.

They have tracked him for a long time, so would not surprise if he was the main target.

What I don't like is that he has played under 2000 league minutes in every season in his career. For such a player over 40 million is quite much.
 

drippin

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Here is a comparison to Camavinga, last summer.

Tough to compare for Camavinga, as he had a year left in contract, so was a bargain.

Anyway, Guimaraes is more efficient long passer, passer under pressure, doesn't dribble as often and is dribbled past more often. He also looks a bit better at defending. Otherwise the stats look quite similar.

45 million euros does sound a lot when Real paid 31 million euros for 5 years younger almost similar stats player. The contract situation difference is 1,5 years.

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Barry

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Here is a comparison to Camavinga, last summer.

Tough to compare for Camavinga, as he had a year left in contract, so was a bargain.

Anyway, Guimaraes is more efficient long passer, passer under pressure, doesn't dribble as often and is dribbled past more often. He also looks a bit better at defending. Otherwise the stats look quite similar.

45 million euros does sound a lot when Real paid 31 million euros for 5 years younger almost similar stats player. The contract situation difference is 1,5 years.

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I saw that article as well. He's not the most exciting name but I think Guimaraes would be a terrific signing all told.

If we can't get the top tier midfielders (Rice, Tielemans, De Jong, Gallagher, Bellingham etc) then he's a really good shout at the next level down.
 

drippin

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I saw that article as well. He's not the most exciting name but I think Guimaraes would be a terrific signing all told.

If we can't get the top tier midfielders (Rice, Tielemans, De Jong, Gallagher, Bellingham etc) then he's a really good shout at the next level down.
Yeah. Get Guimaraes in now to help with top 4 finish.

In the summer we have Partey, Guimaraes, Sambi, Xhaka.

Sell Xhaka with 2 years in contract and get a top midfielder with our UCL finish. Xhaka is worth like 20 million with 2 years in contract imo.

Sounds like a plan.
 
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