Bukayo Saka: 2019/20 Performances

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  1. Tourbillion

    Tourbillion Angry & Miserable

    You are correct. He should have idolised the Spanish playmakers instead of the idiotic British rough and tumble.
  2. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    The loan to Bolton was great for Jack...Owen Coyle had a decent style as a manager, plus there is nothing wrong with learning to be a little tough, especially in England.

    I agree that after he came back from his injury, his game slowly changed towards a Gerrard-sequel style that didn’t really suit him, but it wasn’t because of the Bolton loan, the Bolton loan is one of the best loans we ever did.

    We sent Jack to a Premiership team he would start in, with a style that suited him, to get him valuable on the pitch experience and he was immediately ready to play for us the season after because of it...that’s exactly what a loan should be.
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  3. Football Manager

    Football Manager Copy & Paste Merchant

    Too many hoof ball sides back then. Maybe not much choice for wilshere to loan to.
  4. Geofranco

    Geofranco Well-Known Member

    Wilshere bought into the whole Spanish technique with English grit thing too much.

    His tackling technique was really poor, some of those tackles still make me cringe.

    It's amazing that Wenger and some of the other coaching staff didn't address those things.

    He needed to work more on his positional discipline and defensive awareness, rather than try to be robust like a Gerrard or Rooney. He didn't even have the stature or power to play like those guys.

    I don't think Wilshere was ever a 10 either, at least not on first team level. He would have been a really good modern 8 with more education.

    Looking at prospects like Ceballos and Guendouzi getting consistent game time here now, just imagine what 19 year old Wilshere would bring to this terrible midfield we currently have.
  5. Hunta

    Hunta Shivering Right Now Trusted

    There’s an obsession in England with midfielders and goals. Pundits and the press here would probably slag off Xavi and Iniesta if they played in the PL. Jack let the Gerrard/Lampard thing get to him and Wenger moving him forward was a disastrous decision.
  6. Relic

    Relic Well-Known Member

    Jack was ruined because of wankers like this, not even a yellow card if I remember right.

    Lets hope refs protect this new generation better.
  7. Tourbillion

    Tourbillion Angry & Miserable

    That ****ing piece of **** nothing footballer, to add to Martin Taylor, Dan Smith and Ryan Shawcross.

    **** the lot of them.
  8. MutableEarth

    MutableEarth Bloody awesome NSFW avatars Trusted

    Exactly this - although this didn't happen at Bolton, this happened much later after he came back from his first big injury.

    Wilshere started off as a wide playmaker and I thought he had a great short-term future in that position initially before eventually moving central into a 10 or 8 position. Once he started trying to be Steven Gerrard, he had a problem. But that's been a problem ever since Bryan Robson and probably before that - English midfielders aspire to be the be-all and end-all of the team. They're the ultimate B2B players who're expected to tackle, pass, dribble, shoot, jump high and run forever. And do all that at 100mph, even the slow ones :lol:. It's why they hated guys like Michael Carrick for so long because Carrick played his role and did it well, and didn't try to be the hero. He was a DLP/6 and that's what he did on the pitch.
  9. Idiotologue

    Idiotologue Well-Known Member

    Yet you still have idiots lamenting that the game is less tolerant of talentless leg-breaking wankers like this nowadays. Having such an attitude says a lot about you as a person, imo, it reeks of resentment. The likes of Tony Pulis and Sean Dyche and their henchmen are full of that.
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  11. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    Unpopular opinion: Feel like he earned that too easily.

    I’d only really be giving a generational talent the number 7 after one season. In a way this summarises how we’ve fallen but maybe I’m just being a downer.
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  12. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    Generational for sure.
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  13. Big Poppa

    Big Poppa Well-Known Member Trusted

    Alphonso Davies to Arsenal confirmed :bounce:
  14. Macho

    Macho Well-Known Member Trusted

    Think Saka is an amazing talent tbh, always have.

    Well deserved plaudits in my opinion.
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  15. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    Agreed...anyone who thinks otherwise, Jack will personally batter you himself...

  16. Gunners1616

    Gunners1616 Well-Known Member

    Saka polyvalence might turn against him at some point. He played in so many positions that i'm not even sure what's his best one.

    He played best this season as a left wing back but he could play there only if we play 5 at the back. Even then Arteta in the big games has favored Tierney or AMN in there.

    And if we play 4 at the back then Tierney is a better LB and Aubam' plays on the left in attack.

    And clearly Saka is not comfortable on the right side. Maybe he could play in the midfield 3 but not sure at all.

    It's quite a weird case. One of our best young talent yet not sure what's even his best position. Also explains why he hasn't played much in the last few games.
  17. Geofranco

    Geofranco Well-Known Member

    Arteta prefers playing AMN and Tierney in these big games because they are more experienced and better defensively than Saka.

    Arteta already stated that Saka is not a fullback and would be used further forward.

    He is still just 18 so no need to over-analyze the situation. And even when it comes to playing RW, he struggled massively against City there, scored a great goal against Wolves but was generally poor playing there, but by the third game, he was very good against Leicester playing RW.

    The boy is very adaptable and that can never be a negative for him as he is still learning the game at senior level.

    He prob didn't feature a lot in the last few games because of his fitness. He was clearly fading and needed a break.

    He will play as a LW, LCM and RW for majority of his appearances next season depending on the opposition and formation.
  18. Hunta

    Hunta Shivering Right Now Trusted

    Played a hell of a lot for an 18 year old, suspect he’ll get a few starts at the start of next season due to the few games he’s been rested for recently.
  19. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    Arteta's done him big favours. The hype around him was getting way too big. Not saying he doesn't deserve it, as he's been superb, but it's really unhealthy for young players to be hyped like that, it's something fans need to realise. They need to develop.
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  20. Gooner416

    Gooner416 Well-Known Member

    Paddy McNair, absolute dogshit footballer. Someone should've Keane'd him for that monstrosity of a tackle.
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