this thread is gold, ngl.
Some of you guys have absolutely no shame
Some of you guys have absolutely no shame
I would have Wilshere above probably. Bit hard to say since his career got ruined by injuries. . He was meme:ing on the best midfielders in the world at 17On talent alone I think he's clear of everyone tbh, but he's competing with what many would consider the GOAT left back who had an immense career. Obviously not the most popular guy around here though.
Honestly don’t think I can recall a bad Saka performance or run of form since he broke out. Excelled at LWB, LW, RW under different managers in different teams. Only 21 years old, arguably already the best RW in the world, mentality and football IQ is off the charts, leading Arsenal to a title challenge against the odds, England’s best player in a World Cup, hale end product, ridiculously sound human being etc etc.
All for diversity of opinion but have to seriously question anyone who has slandered this guy’s career so far. Short of demanding he transform into Messi, I’m not sure what more he could possibly have done. He has been absolutely phenomenal.
I can possibly agree with the first bit (Cashley springs to mind...) but I think you're having to really go some to even make top 5 on the second bit and that's no slight on Saka. You've got the likes of Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Campbell, Adams etc. So many top names.
Interesting
Tbf he couldn’t really shoot for a few seasons and looked to be more of facilitator. Now his finishing has improved that comparison isn’t accurate. Hope that makes sense?There are certain posters here who said saka's ceiling was Malouda. After that, you can't really take what they say seriously. It's def trolling
Thank you Dok. I’ll make sure we add on 10M to the rice fee.No idea why that would even be a slight tbh. Malouda was top class for a couple of years, a nailed on starter in a team that won 3 FA cups, the CL and the league.
Played 80 games for France as well. Literally started in the World Cup final. He was a brilliant player.
He could always shoot though. He just struggled with a bit of composure. It was clear he just needed reps and experience. A player like Nketiah for instance can't shoot and it was obvious since he played U18 football. I don't know, maybe I just watched too much youth football in that dire period for Arsenal. First team was a shambles, not going anywhere, unlikeable players, terrible football to watch, the academy players were way more exciting to watch from around 2015-2021. So I got to see Saka a lot and it was obvious to me he had everything to become a star. I never said the things I said about Saka for ESR or Reiss Nelson. I never even rated Nketiah, so it wasn't like I was blinded by academy bias. Only concern for Saka to me was the consistency of his first touch and sharpness in his link up play.Tbf he couldn’t really shoot for a few seasons and looked to be more of facilitator. Now his finishing has improved that comparison isn’t accurate. Hope that makes sense?
At the end of the day saying his ceiling (not sure I even used that term) is a key player in a PL and CL winning team isn’t the insult you’re trying to make it out to be.
Since he improved his goalscoring I’ve said the sky is the limit for him.
In terms of best modern academy products you can't put him above Ashley Cole yet.
Cole was pretty indisputably the best player in the world in his position for a number of years. Given time I expect Saka to usurp him but not yet.
Btw. what's really funny about this one, is that Trilly thinks Saka's goal scoring ceiling is Bernardo Silva rather than Mahrez.Found this by a fast search. Not sure who made the Malouda comparison first (?), but wouldn't surprise me if it was @Trilly as he didn't see Saka as a prolific winger. This was at the end of last season.
Bukayo Saka: Saka The Net
Agenda merchants. The same that said his ceiling is Malouda lol. You’re overdoing it here. Have a look at Malouda’s career honours, if any academy prospect goes on to have that sort of career they’ll be the best hale ender ever. Malouda comparison came about because he’s a very good all around...arsenal-mania.com
No, he said that Saka still had something to prove in that regard:Btw. what's really funny about this one, is that Trilly thinks Saka's goal scoring ceiling is Bernardo Silva rather than Mahrez.
According to Transfermarkt, Silva has scored a goal per 397 minutes in his EPL career. Even last season Saka scored (the message was posted 21st May 2022) a goal per 375,5 minutes, and I don't count those two penalty goals from Saka for fairness.
So basically @Trilly thought that Saka had already hit his ceiling as a goal scorer at 20 years old.
“Until then” means it’s still to be determined and could change.I’m still yet to see evidence of shooting/finishing being one of his standout traits.
Until then as a ball dominant winger his goal scoring ceiling is more Bernardo Silva than Mahrez. Still very respectable ofc.
Saka was already at Silva levels in regard of goal scoring last season so this looks really funny like I said. How can his ceiling in goal scoring be at Silva levels if he is there already? Ceiling talks about potential, not the current level, unless you think the current level is the ceiling.No, he said that Saka still had something to prove in that regard:
“Until then” means it’s still to be determined and could change.
I don’t think he meant it literally.Saka was already at Silva levels in regard of goal scoring last season so this looks really funny like I said. How can his ceiling in goal scoring be at Silva levels if he is there already? Ceiling talks about potential, not the current level, unless you think the current level is the ceiling.
Great that you seem to know what Trilly meant. Why the urge to defend him? You were in the same camp about this matter?I don’t think he meant it literally.
No, I can just read and see what he meant from the context of the post.Great that you seem to know what Trilly meant. Why the urge to defend him? You were in the same camp about this matter?
Great that you seem to know what Trilly meant. Why the urge to defend him? You were in the same camp about this matter?