this thread is gold, ngl.
Some of you guys have absolutely no shame
Some of you guys have absolutely no shame
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Bukayo Saka: Saka The Net
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Honestly don’t think I can recall a bad Saka performance or run of form since he broke out. Excelled at LWB, LW, RW under different managers in different teams. Only 21 years old, arguably already the best RW in the world, mentality and football IQ is off the charts, leading Arsenal to a title challenge against the odds, England’s best player in a World Cup, hale end product, ridiculously sound human being etc etc.
All for diversity of opinion but have to seriously question anyone who has slandered this guy’s career so far. Short of demanding he transform into Messi, I’m not sure what more he could possibly have done. He has been absolutely phenomenal.
All for diversity of opinion but have to seriously question anyone who has slandered this guy’s career so far. Short of demanding he transform into Messi, I’m not sure what more he could possibly have done. He has been absolutely phenomenal.
Riou
In The Winchester, Waiting For This To Blow Over
Country: Northern Ireland
Player:Gabriel
How has just reading the words "Football IQ" managed to get me to laugh a little, AM is the best
pigge
#Pigge #Equality
Player:Martinelli
I would have Wilshere above probably. Bit hard to say since his career got ruined by injuries. . He was meme:ing on the best midfielders in the world at 17
I mean, some of the takes are old tho. This is his first true elite season and he has to keep it consistent to be considered a mainstay with the big boys.
Mind you, everything points towards him at least keeping this level, if not reaching that top, top tier reserved for guys contending for best of the best/Balon d'Or.
Go back far enough and some people were saying he was going to be a LB (a really good one, mind you) or being adamant that he wouldn't renew his first contract with Arsenal.
DJ_Markstar
Based and Artetapilled
Player:Martinelli
I can possibly agree with the first bit (Cashley springs to mind...) but I think you're having to really go some to even make top 5 on the second bit and that's no slight on Saka. You've got the likes of Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Campbell, Adams etc. So many top names.
Country: Norway
Don Unai giving Saka his opportunities in an otherwise bleak tenure. Uncanny parallel to Rioch signing Bergkamp in a similar dire tenure as Arsenal manager.
Country: England
Tbf he couldn’t really shoot for a few seasons and looked to be more of facilitator. Now his finishing has improved that comparison isn’t accurate. Hope that makes sense?
At the end of the day saying his ceiling (not sure I even used that term) is a key player in a PL and CL winning team isn’t the insult you’re trying to make it out to be.
Since he improved his goalscoring I’ve said the sky is the limit for him.
Country: England
Thank you Dok. I’ll make sure we add on 10M to the rice fee.
He could always shoot though. He just struggled with a bit of composure. It was clear he just needed reps and experience. A player like Nketiah for instance can't shoot and it was obvious since he played U18 football. I don't know, maybe I just watched too much youth football in that dire period for Arsenal. First team was a shambles, not going anywhere, unlikeable players, terrible football to watch, the academy players were way more exciting to watch from around 2015-2021. So I got to see Saka a lot and it was obvious to me he had everything to become a star. I never said the things I said about Saka for ESR or Reiss Nelson. I never even rated Nketiah, so it wasn't like I was blinded by academy bias. Only concern for Saka to me was the consistency of his first touch and sharpness in his link up play.
Country: England
Player:Rice
In terms of best modern academy products you can't put him above Ashley Cole yet.
Cole was pretty indisputably the best player in the world in his position for a number of years. Given time I expect Saka to usurp him but not yet.
Cole was pretty indisputably the best player in the world in his position for a number of years. Given time I expect Saka to usurp him but not yet.
MikeVinna
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Yeah and I also feel fullbacks of that level are more of a rarity than elite wingers. I despise Cashley for moving to that lot but he really was an immense player. Best of his generation in his position. Until you can make those claims about Saka he’ll be behind. But winning the league this season against those cheating Etihad boys would go a long way.
drippin
Obsessed with "Mature Trusted Members"
Country: Finland
Btw. what's really funny about this one, is that Trilly thinks Saka's goal scoring ceiling is Bernardo Silva rather than Mahrez.Found this by a fast search. Not sure who made the Malouda comparison first (?), but wouldn't surprise me if it was @Trilly as he didn't see Saka as a prolific winger. This was at the end of last season.
Bukayo Saka: Saka The Net
Agenda merchants. The same that said his ceiling is Malouda lol. You’re overdoing it here. Have a look at Malouda’s career honours, if any academy prospect goes on to have that sort of career they’ll be the best hale ender ever. Malouda comparison came about because he’s a very good all around...arsenal-mania.com
According to Transfermarkt, Silva has scored a goal per 397 minutes in his EPL career. Even last season Saka scored (the message was posted 21st May 2022) a goal per 375,5 minutes, and I don't count those two penalty goals from Saka for fairness.
So basically @Trilly thought that Saka had already hit his ceiling as a goal scorer at 20 years old.
No, he said that Saka still had something to prove in that regard:Btw. what's really funny about this one, is that Trilly thinks Saka's goal scoring ceiling is Bernardo Silva rather than Mahrez.
According to Transfermarkt, Silva has scored a goal per 397 minutes in his EPL career. Even last season Saka scored (the message was posted 21st May 2022) a goal per 375,5 minutes, and I don't count those two penalty goals from Saka for fairness.
So basically @Trilly thought that Saka had already hit his ceiling as a goal scorer at 20 years old.
“Until then” means it’s still to be determined and could change.
We’ve actually struck gold with this lad. One of the best things about him that doesn’t get mentioned a lot is he’s left footed. How many elite left footed right wingers have there been in the last 15 years? Messi/Salah/Bale/Robben are the ones that spring to mind.
It’s one of the rarest “profiles” in the game, yet one of the most important to balance an attack (the guys above formed probable the 4 best front lines of the last 15 years as well).
We are truly blessed with this guy.
It’s one of the rarest “profiles” in the game, yet one of the most important to balance an attack (the guys above formed probable the 4 best front lines of the last 15 years as well).
We are truly blessed with this guy.
drippin
Obsessed with "Mature Trusted Members"
Country: Finland
Saka was already at Silva levels in regard of goal scoring last season so this looks really funny like I said. How can his ceiling in goal scoring be at Silva levels if he is there already? Ceiling talks about potential, not the current level, unless you think the current level is the ceiling.
Of course he says "until then" so he has an excuse for these comparisons. It's prime GDeep methods. He always doubted Saka's finishing ability, and now that Saka has shown he can shoot and score, he can just say Saka has suddenly in under a year developed his finishing from almost zero to hero, so to speak.
He said in the same message, while also defending the comparison with Malouda, because Saka doesn't score enough for him:
"he could be prolific a la Sterling but I don’t think Saka is a wide forward."
I don’t think he meant it literally.
No, I can just read and see what he meant from the context of the post.
Country: Bangladesh
Player:Martinelli
I mean you’re guilty of EXACTLY what you’re accusing @A_G of… seeming to know what is in @Trilly ‘s head instead of taking what he said at face value.
Don’t get me wrong I love piling on trills as much as the next guy but what he said here wasn’t exactly outrageous. He was basically just sitting on the fence.
