Calum Chambers: Our Best CB. Not That It Means Much.

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by entropy13, Jul 28, 2014.

  1. Camus

    Camus Active Member

    Has Chambers ever played as a RB against a winger with any respectable amount of pace and not get totally skinned? It's basically his signature move at this point. He's slower than paraplegics. And I'm pretty sure the winger he comes up against usually gets MOTM because he makes them look Godly.

    I don't blame him. Well kind of, he's obviously not good enough defensively on an individual level. But it doesn't help when the manager is playing you in a position and against a player that's obviously got the better of you.
  2. Brown Gooner

    Brown Gooner DoN'T ceNsOR maH FreE SpEecH

    ^ This.

    I think Chambers, Holding, Ramsey, Xhaka, Mustafi and even Kolasinac should all GTFO of Arsenal this summer if Wenger is still the manager next season. I can easily see all of them (guys who are often branded “not good enough” on this forum) rescuing their careers and probably even thriving under the right coach and in the proper setup.
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  3. Linson

    Linson Well-Known Member

    You can't blame Chambers for being played RB.

    The modern full back is athletic and quick, expected to contribute to the attack as much as the defence.

    Chambers true potential lies in the middle of the park, either at centre half or as a true DM. He's very calm on the ball and picks a pass well. It's unfair to judge him as a RB. It would be much fairer to judge Wenger for playing him there repeatedly.

    This should have been sorted out in January when we knew we were selling Debuchy and we'd already sold Ox.
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  4. Mitch

    Mitch Blocked by Ramsey on Instagram

    Surely Chambers has to be our number 1 RB ahead of Bellerin now?
  5. Cudareli

    Cudareli Antonio Valencia stan

    Nah, can't be. Go back 2 pages and you'll see the experts in here calling him useless, dumb, slow, weak, you name it.

    Kid has loads of potential and should be starting every week.
  6. pacstud

    pacstud Well-Known Member

    Why? He had a good game (though he was struggling mightily early on).

    Bellerin is still vastly better.
  7. HBL

    HBL Well-Known Member

    If we don’t plan on playing him at cb, we should sell him. Decent player, hopefully he can perform well for the rest of the season so we can sell him for more in the summer.
  8. YeahBee

    YeahBee Sign all the Swedes

    we will be one CB short in the summer

    Kos looked great today but a hard season has probably taken its toll on him, already constantly playing with small niggling injuries

    if chambers covers for both CB, RB and potentially even DM he will get enough games and so will Holding

    still think we have room for a major CB signing
  9. HBL

    HBL Well-Known Member

    Mustafi can go, absolute garbage

    Koulibaly & Pavard/Diallo in

    Sell Chambers, Loan one of Holding/Mavropanos, Keep the other.
  10. Mo Britain

    Mo Britain You should be ashamed of yourself Gazidis


  11. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Chambers is decent but against any pacy winger he'll have absolutely nightmare CB its his best position but he still struggle there
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  12. Mo Britain

    Mo Britain You should be ashamed of yourself Gazidis

    I get the feeling he's better than Senderos and Djorou. Prone to mistakes (but even at his best so was Kos) but at least he fights for the ball. Before selling him I'd like to see him being given a chance at centre back, preferably with a partner who isn't panicking all over the place.
  13. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    His errors at center back are mostly normal errors he just need to learn from those
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  14. Mo Britain

    Mo Britain You should be ashamed of yourself Gazidis

    That's my point. Most people here are too young to remember Tony Adams when he started his senior Arsenal career.
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  15. KrissKringle

    KrissKringle Well-Known Member

  16. pacstud

    pacstud Well-Known Member

    That's not saying he's great. Just vastly better than Chambers.

    Obviously Bellerin is -1,000 for his passport :(
  17. KrissKringle

    KrissKringle Well-Known Member

    I'll have to disagree on that, because Bellerin has no balls. This guy bombs forward to put a cross in and even gets a shot on target if it comes his way. I'm willing to bet that he would have better numbers in that position than the hipster if he'd get a string of games.

    Monreal and Kola both put crosses and score goals from their flank, but Bellerin crosses and scores once in a blue moon.
    I am sick and tired of seeing him play it safe every single time by passing it back instead of going forward.

    Everybody's going on about his pace, but he's slower now and he's not using the speed for anything productive, so what's the point anymore?
    Even his technique took a big dip. Can hardly control a fast pass coming his way with a first touch. He needs two almost every time.
  18. yybecause

    yybecause Formerly known as ArsenaLover

    Love this lad. Such intelligent player. Of course, far away from a done deal, but I am glad he is getting minutes
  19. Cudareli

    Cudareli Antonio Valencia stan

    I don't agree, speed at right back helps but it is a huge generalisation to right him off.

    He's a very very smart footballer, people underrate that aspect of his game so much. While I agree that he's going to end as a centre half, he could easily play an extended run at right back and do more than just a job.

    Even last season in the matches he covered for Barragan at right back, he was the best on the park. Very smart in possession, tucks in well in defence and just understands the game better than most. I'd take an intelligent right back like Chambers who lacks pace, then a pacey right back like Aurier or Eboue that lacks intelligence.
  20. pacstud

    pacstud Well-Known Member

    All that is fine, they're both kids.

    Bellerin doesn't piss himself every time he's in a jam. We already have enough problems handing the ball to the other team in the middle of the field, we don't need to start doing it on the right side as well.

    Chambers is too slow and turns the ball over way too much. He's not a terrible player, extremism isn't my thing, but he's overrated because of his nationality.

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