Charlie Patino: No Swan Song Afterall

[boonthegoon]

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

This won't benefit him and his development unless we in serious trouble and couldn't buy anyone in January then there no need call him back.

 

[Ibadan]

Football london love to post all kind of speculatory articles about what could happen. The article lists that a recall clause exists and could be used. The same is probably true for a bunch of our loanees like Balogun, Norton-Cuffy, Tavares... etc.

There's no quote or source suggesting Patino is likely to be recalled. He was getting consistent minutes before his minor injury, the best thing for his career is to stay where he is for the rest of the season.

In the future maybe you should think before posting random, wanky, articles. @boonthegoon

 

[lomekian]

Football london love to post all kind of speculatory articles about what could happen. The article lists that a recall clause exists and could be used. The same is probably true for a bunch of our loanees like Balogun, Norton-Cuffy, Tavares... etc.

There's no quote or source suggesting Patino is likely to be recalled. He was getting consistent minutes before his minor injury, the best thing for his career is to stay where he is for the rest of the season.

In the future maybe you should think before posting random, wanky, articles. @boonthegoon

Many loans don't have clauses of this nature. There's no harm in knowing which do. The only time we've really used one was with Le Coq, which turned out a far better idea than anyone thought at the time...

 

[GoonerJeeves]

This won't benefit him and his development unless we in serious trouble and couldn't buy anyone in January then there no need call him back.

I suspect the real reason for that recall option is in case he doesn't get enough game time at Blackpool. Azeez was recalled from Portsmouth due to the above. It puts a certain pressure on the loaning club to play the loanee.

Hopefully, we will not need to exercise the option, for whatever reason.

 

[Bloodbather]

Would make no sense whatsoever. Let him stay at Blackpool, bring Danilo in. Patino should join the team next season as the guy looking to take over from Xhaka long-term.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

I suspect the real reason for that recall option is in case he doesn't get enough game time at Blackpool. Azeez was recalled from Portsmouth due to the above. It puts a certain pressure on the loaning club to play the loanee.

Hopefully, we will not need to exercise the option, for whatever reason.

Yes that's true let's see what they'll do with him after his injury but look they rate him highly.

 

[Ibadan]

Many loans don't have clauses of this nature. There's no harm in knowing which do. The only time we've really used one was with Le Coq, which turned out a far better idea than anyone thought at the time...

You're right. As fans, there's no harm in knowing how the loans are structured. I suppose we can be grateful for that. We used one to recall Nketiah a few years back from Leeds no?

I wasn't as invested in Arsenal back then as I am now, what happened with Coquelin?

 

[drippin]

Football london love to post all kind of speculatory articles about what could happen. The article lists that a recall clause exists and could be used. The same is probably true for a bunch of our loanees like Balogun, Norton-Cuffy, Tavares... etc.

There's no quote or source suggesting Patino is likely to be recalled. He was getting consistent minutes before his minor injury, the best thing for his career is to stay where he is for the rest of the season.

In the future maybe you should think before posting random, wanky, articles. @boonthegoon

The tweet says, in addition to information about having a recall option, that Patino is "Described as being 'close' to fitness return". This is very good confirming information about his injury after almost a month since the last update here.

Don't you think your reaction here was a bit over the top? I'm sure many welcome this tweet and the information it says.

 

[drippin]

Patino came on at 66 minutes yesterday against Rotherham. Couldn't find other information, but very nice to see him come back. The ankle twist didn't look good.

 

[MutableEarth]

Patino came on at 66 minutes yesterday against Rotherham. Couldn't find other information, but very nice to see him come back. The ankle twist didn't look good.

Patino was bright when he came on. You'd think if he stays fit he should end up starting for them. Like Azeez, he's a guy that needs the ball more often than not otherwise you're not necessarily getting the best out of them but in the few games he has played I've been continually impressed with his willingness to get into duels.

 

[Big Poppa]

I don’t understand the clamour for an untested young player most have never seen like Danilo instead of giving Patino a shot in the first team. If we bring someone into that area it should be a player who can elevate the first XI right away.

 

[drippin]

I don’t understand the clamour for an untested young player most have never seen like Danilo instead of giving Patino a shot in the first team. If we bring someone into that area it should be a player who can elevate the first XI right away.

Patino needs all the minutes he can get, so he will stay at Blackpool if they give him enough game-time. He is not someone who will elevate the first XI right now.

We needed someone to midfield last window, but didn't get one, so we need someone in January. There aren't many affordable players in January available who will elevate the first XI right now. It would be good to have more quality depth, who is already adjusted to the team and EPL when Elneny leaves next summer.

Palmeiras season will have ended at that point. So it will likely be Tielemans, Luiz, Danilo or someone else. Danilo is said to be like the best DMF playing in Brazil now and has already been in Brazil NT bench despite his young age and playing in Brazil.

 

[TinFish]

I don’t understand the clamour for an untested young player most have never seen like Danilo instead of giving Patino a shot in the first team. If we bring someone into that area it should be a player who can elevate the first XI right away.

Danilo is rated as one of the best DMF in Brazil. He's already in the national squad albeit warming the bench. The guy must have serious potential and I'd love for him to come in January. Patino can compete next season.

 

[RunTheTrap]

I don’t understand the clamour for an untested young player most have never seen like Danilo instead of giving Patino a shot in the first team. If we bring someone into that area it should be a player who can elevate the first XI right away.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Danilo a 6, whereas Patino is an 8?

 

[Rasmi]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Danilo a 6, whereas Patino is an 8?

No Danilo is an 8. A defensive 8 like xhaka

 

[drippin]

No Danilo is an 8. A defensive 8 like xhaka

No he is not. He is a #6 who can be box-to-box, rather than the opposite you suggest.

"Positioning

Danilo is a 20-year-old deep-lying midfielder at Palmeiras. He is left-footed but has mainly operated on the right side of a double-pivot. His heatmap helps illustrate his playing style. Though he is naturally a more defensive midfielder, his relentless work rate allows him to become a box-to-box midfielder at times. Consequently, his heatmap bleeds into the opposition half as he will often press higher up the pitch defensively or find space between the defensive lines offensively.

While Palmeiras can be dynamic with their formations, a double-pivot is very consistent. Danilo’s most-played position has been on the right of a double-pivot, but he has played as the single-pivot at times. In a double-pivot, he will usually operate close to the backline. He is key in retaining possession, protecting the backline, and launching counterattacks. While most of these are done as a deep-lying midfielder, he will also occasionally get further up the pitch as a box-to-box midfielder. The image below illustrates his positioning in possession, usually closer to the backline.

Statistically, Danilo is undoubtedly one of the best midfielders in Brazil. For the 2021 Brasileiro, Danilo is in the highest percentiles for most key metrics."

Danilo: Palmeiras' 20-year-old star

This scout report uses tactical analysis to identify the playing style and characteristics of 20-year-old star, Danilo, from Palmeiras.

totalfootballanalysis.com

 

[AbouCuéllar]

Many loans don't have clauses of this nature. There's no harm in knowing which do. The only time we've really used one was with Le Coq, which turned out a far better idea than anyone thought at the time...

Gnabry, but the damage was already done.

 

[Bloodbather]

I don’t understand the clamour for an untested young player most have never seen like Danilo instead of giving Patino a shot in the first team. If we bring someone into that area it should be a player who can elevate the first XI right away.

I can only speak for myself, but I mention Danilo because I have seen him play numerous times.

The two aren't mutually exclusive, either. Danilo would be a #6 in our current set-up, Patino would be an #8.

 

[insideafc]

Most excited about Patino of our loanee's this year, a Wilshere mould, hopefully he can breakthrough (without the injuries)