Not sure Patino is as big talent as Wilshere and Fabregas.
Patino is 6ft and weighs about 100 pounds. Jack was still stocky for his height.
Players like Xhaka and Elneny will always make sure that we end up in the EL at best and we never see the CL. That's why I'm always open to risks, we did it with Saka and I don't mind doing it again as long as the first team players aren't good enough
It just doesn't make sense to risk the season starting a youngster who isn't ready, which can ruin his confidence.
Most people were saying the same for Saka, had exactly the same discussion as we are now having with Patino. There is no expert in the world (not even @MutableEarth ) who could tell you when they are ready or if they ever will be. Some players failed who were destined for huge success and some unexpectedly succeeded, no matter the age. They need to start kicking the ball for the first team and things will be clear then, and for me, the best time for that is when our first team players are simply not good enough, which is definitely the case atm
I get what you're saying, but DMF role is one of the most difficult roles in football. Even more experienced Sambi had problems there in his first EPL season, which was expected.
I think there was a plan to give him minutes. Unfortunately, he was injured or recovering from injury at the crucial moments of opportunity.
I'm not sure how good he is compared to Cesc or Jack but he won't get many first team minutes unless we start to win comfortably and dominate. Arteta said that Laca played so long because he was scared to play Nketiah and it's the same with Patino. Arteta would rather plod with what we have instead of taking a chance to be better.
Yeah for youngsters it comes down to manager. Arteta is a conservative manager who don’t like to take gamble on youth. I think last season was more of him realising youth gives him time and it was to save his job rather than being a progressive manager
The Patino hype went too far. No way was he better than 16 year old Wilshere or even 15 year old Reiss Nelson in the academy. I like him as a prospect, but he has some of the same issues Xhaka does. Both lefties, barely use their weaker foot, both slow and not very good defensively on or off the ball. Although Xhaka is better defensively and I would say Patino is more agile, better in tight spaces and better dribbler.
Patino has put on some size recently. He even looked a bit taller. Think he is one of those kids that is a late bloomer physically. Prob won't fully grow into his body till his mid 20s. With the right mentorship, think he can become a brilliant CM in his prime. He has a very high football intelligence and awareness.
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That came out from the coaching team, not some fans who have no clue about
It's not an accident the Arsenal Academy page is named "MutableEarthsPage". He likely follows the youth here the most. Hope this helps.
Won't know if he's ready until he plays. Arteta has shown reluctance to blood youngsters too soon. Most of the ones who play often are players who had already established themselves to some degree before he became manager.
It was a little strong, I agree - the Wilshere comparisons, while understandable, were a little much IMO. I wouldn't say his issues are too similar to Xhaka's though, I think he's a stronger player defensively than given credit. His wiry frame gives off that vibe but he's a pretty tenacious player.
It's not an accident the Arsenal Academy page is named "MutableEarthsPage". He likely follows the youth here the most. Hope this helps.
There are some other posters too who follow it closely of course.
"https://arsenal-mania.com/for-um/forums/MutableEarthsPage/"
Pay no attention to this one.
