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Chris Willock (out)

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MutableEarth

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He's been stalling on a deal, and I actually don't think it's about money. I think he wants assurances that he's gonna see some first team minutes. So far, despite being one of the most talented players in the academy, he barely sees any, and he hasn't been sent on loan either.

Even though we have arguably comparable talents to potentially fill the void, it would still be a blow for Chris Willock to leave permanently. He's a player with the technique and immense dribbling ability to be a real asset. He is probably looking at Serge Gnabry aswell, who is getting plaudits in Germany this season - and he left an arguably better club to get those minutes too. Would be an even bigger milestone if he ends up at Bayern, as reports seem to be suggesting.
 
Sheppey-Gooner

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bingobob said:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...n-whizkid-patrick-roberts-to-manchester-city/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/celtic-eyeing-summer-swoop-arsenal-10019380

Plenty of links developing on this one. According to transfrmarket he is also out of contract in the summer. Reading the reserves thread it seems like he has a lot of promise.
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Use as a sweetener in a deal for Dembele? Wishful thinking?

All jokes aside, any unproven teen who's pushing for more money isn't welcome here.

Although if hes pushing for more game time, fair enough - cant blame him for not wanting to stick about, Perez hasn't been given a fair chance and he IS a proven striker lol.
 
BobP

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Losing Gnabry was annoying, losing Willock would be worse with him being an academy product and all.

This is another consequence of our hoarding or retention of mediocre players.

Sure you could argue that Walcott for example is good for 10-15 goals a season as a poaching winger, but besides those stats, what else is he good for? Is he really the kind of player who is capable of contributing in the club going forward? Are there players with higher ceilings than Walcott at the club who could be given more time?

Look at Podolski at Bayern for example, signed as a promising youngster with a very impressive scoring record for Koln, comes to Bayern and his goalscoring output hovers in and around the 10 goal mark for 3 seasons. At the end of his 3rd season, he's let go. You know who took over his spot? Thomas Muller. Could Gnabry have been our Muller, can Willock be our Muller? We'll never know as long as trash like Walcott stick around.

The same applies to AMN, and the mediocrity we have in midfield such as Ramsey, Coq, Elneny.
 
MutableEarth

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BobP said:
Losing Gnabry was annoying, losing Willock would be worse with him being an academy product and all.

This is another consequence of our hoarding or retention of mediocre players.

Sure you could argue that Walcott for example is good for 10-15 goals a season as a poaching winger, but besides those stats, what else is he good for? Is he really the kind of player who is capable of contributing in the club going forward? Are there players with higher ceilings than Walcott at the club who could be given more time?

Look at Podolski at Bayern for example, signed as a promising youngster with a very impressive scoring record for Koln, comes to Bayern and his goalscoring output hovers in and around the 10 goal mark for 3 seasons. At the end of his 3rd season, he's let go. You know who took over his spot? Thomas Muller. Could Gnabry have been our Muller, can Willock be our Muller? We'll never know as long as trash like Walcott stick around.

The same applies to AMN, and the mediocrity we have in midfield such as Ramsey, Coq, Elneny.
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I have to say that I agree. We have a reputation for giving youth players chances ever since the youth project started with Cesc, but that's not been the case for a little while now - and while people may point to Bellerin and Iwobi's emergence (and to an extent Coquelin), much of that was due to injuries. It was known for quite some time that Bellerin could challenge for a first team spot before he eventually got his chance and he only got it because after Debuchy's injury and Jenkinson's loan there was literally nobody else. Iwobi is really the only one afforded significant game time despite competition because Wenger is a big fan of his individual attributes and style of play. Wenger has long been a fan of Iwobi and rated him higher than pretty much anyone else - and understandably so as, while Iwobi is under more scrutiny and criticism than before he has done admirably well so far.

Willock's trouble for me in terms of what he can do to get to first team football is less to do with his physique IMO and more to do with his lack of consistent end product for a player in forward positions. He's not bad in this area but Reiss Nelson is fast becoming more effective and is younger. Willock's technique and dribbling gives him devastating potential in this area and he's still a fantastic talent that Wenger will not want to let go. It could very well turn out to be a Gnabry situation, where he goes somewhere else and looks supremely effective with regular first team football under his belt.
 
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