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We don't win this game without Kai, he's become our most important player tactically. Mike's very own swiss army knife - can use him in variety of ways and still put in 8+/10 performances.
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Cobra Kai Havertz: Kai The Redeemer
- Thread starter NieThePiet
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Country: Canada
PrinzPoldi
Active Member
Country: USA
Player:Havertz
According to the bull$hitter, our team needs a Haaland, Mbappe, Lewendowski to score 40 goals for us to be champion.
No kidding... If they request so much because we paid 65m pounds, how many goals they would and should expect if we pay 150m??
Xln
I rAtE aNgE !
Morata LMFAO
PrinzPoldi
Active Member
Country: USA
Player:Havertz
In summary, everyone is better than Kai.
What's the point to talk to the bull$hitter if his stance is "regardless"??
Ac3knight
Active Member
Kai seemed to be more effective than ever in the Sp**s game. Wonder if it's because of the 4-4-2 formation with him not being isolated on top as per the usual 4-3-2-1
Iwobeast
Established Member
Country: Netherlands
Player:Ødegaard
Makavelii
Well-Known Member
I love this Macho. Refreshing.
Some posters would prefer fight the whole fanbase every single day rather than have a public change in opinion.
Makavelii
Well-Known Member
Kai with most duels won (11) against Sp**s.
In a world where strikers are no longer the main source of goals, he’s a goldmine.
And has potential to be a consistent goal threat. 2 goals + 1 assist in 4 games is a very solid start.
In a world where strikers are no longer the main source of goals, he’s a goldmine.
And has potential to be a consistent goal threat. 2 goals + 1 assist in 4 games is a very solid start.
Makavelii
Well-Known Member
It’s like if a homeless man came up to you on the street and started slurringly telling you that the earth is flat.
Would you bother arguing with them and trying to prove them wrong with statistics and reason? Or would you just feel sorry for them and walk away?
That’s exactly what arguing with Farzad is.
PrinzPoldi
Active Member
Country: USA
Player:Havertz
Possibly
PrinzPoldi
Active Member
Country: USA
Player:Havertz
Not worth my time, and not worth everyone's time.
I'm still excited for the win we got yesterday.
This was a game that every player and manager should get credit.
This was a game that the team made a statement.
This was a game that we should be proud of our two uncles, and our one future star.
This was a game that we should appreciate, not being a harsh critic.
No way I would let the sad@$$ ruin my happy day
HattoriHanzo
Well-Known Member
Country: Croatia
You post so much stupid crap that this has become untenable.
Havertz has scored in Prem last season 13 goals, his best scoring season in England.
He was 24 last year.
Let’s see Morata’s goal production since he was 24. Before he was 24, he scored 6-7 goals per season (average)
2016/17 15
2017/18 11
2018/19 6
2019/20 12
2020/21 11
2021/22 9
2022/23 13
2023/24 15
Average: 92/8=11.5 goals
You can whine, cry, curse, whatever you like, but Havertz is slowly becoming one of the pillars of this Arsenal team.
He replaced Ødegaard yesterday, leading the pressing and had excellent match.
So, laugh at yourself.
Ash10
Chairman of the Bum Brigade
Country: Bangladesh
Good to see you seeing the light. The man has been immense since becoming our CF
Buhry
Established Member
Country: Norway
Was everywhere yesterday (couldn't tell if he was CF or 8 at times), won a lot of duels, but more importantly imo used the ball well and smartly. Also he sometimes takes on players with the ball now and does so reasonably well. He has improved massively and now is starting to look like one of our most consistent performers. The transformation compared to last year even when he isn't scoring is huge. I was a big hater of the initial transfer but I'm starting to like him quite a bit.
Farzad
Stormy's Lifetime Fan and Subscriber #1 🫶🏽
Country: USA
Player:Havertz
So You cherry picked Morata’s average, manipulated the numbers and eliminated his best years and superior assists to make Kai’s best year basically as good as Moraa’s average. Morata is a laughingstock and Kai’s best year is Morata’s average plus Morata is a better passer.
Furthermore you jump on out of context point. Morata was the last striker in a list of 10strikers playing for biggest clubs all better than Kai.
Oh yeah eliminate Morata’s best years and ignore his passing and Kai’s best year is still about the same.
HattoriHanzo
Well-Known Member
Country: Croatia
You have said that Havertz' best is smaller than Morata's average, therefore I gave you Morata average.
I haven't eliminated his best seasons. In seasons before 2016/17 Morata scored 6-7 goals as average.
Morata's best seasons were 2016/17 and 2023/24 when he scored 15 goals.
In average he has scored 12 goals per season since season 2016/17.
Havertz scored 13 goals last season, when he played 1/3 of season in midfield.
I will give you also assists.
Havertz had 7 assists last season.
Morata assists
2016/17 5
2017/18 6
2018/19 1
2019/20 2
2020/21 10
2021/22 7
2022/23 2
2023/24 4
Average: 37/8=4.75 assists per season
All these goals and assists are from league games according to Transfermarkt.
Farzad
Stormy's Lifetime Fan and Subscriber #1 🫶🏽
Country: USA
Player:Havertz
Again. Morata is the last guy on a list of strikers better than Kai, that doesn’t recommend him. As i said his average is about the same as Kai’s Best year. I don’t want Morata or Kai.
Haaland, Mbappe, Lewandowski, Guirassey, Boniface, Martinez, Kane. Morata wasn’t the point. Kai is a below average striker for clubs competing at the elite of Europe was the point. Kai’s great year is Morata or Morata plus. Still not good enough.
Aston Villa has 2 strikers better than Kai. Newcastle has two strikers better than Kai. West Ham has better striker Kai, possibly twice better strikers
HattoriHanzo
Well-Known Member
Country: Croatia
Haaland, Mbappe, Martinez, Kane, Watkins, Isak were not available.
Who wouldn't want them?
Lewa definitely not, too old.
Osimhen wanted absurd wages, and this is it.
Boniface had 14 goals and 9 assists last season, not so much better than Havertz.
Fullkrug the same, 12 goals and 8 assists last season.
Guirassy had insane numbers last season, I haven't seen him, so I don't know.
PrinzPoldi
Active Member
Country: USA
Player:Havertz
Yaya Sanogo is better than Kai.
Save your time, pal.
Watkins just missed two sitters against us, and imagine if it was Kai?
We would have another hundred posts here slating him.
To a certain degree, I do agree of the upgrade.
We should have Haaland to replace Kai.
Mbappe or Vini to replace Martinelli.
WC Salah to replace Saka.
Bellingham to replace Ødegaard.
Rodri to replace Rice.
Sign another 100m CM/CDM.
Sign Frimpong to replace White.
Need to get Alphonso Davies as left back.
Sign Stones and Ruben Dias to replace Saliba and Gabriel.
Get Allison to replace Raya.
Finally, sign Pep or Ancelotti to replace Arteta.
Actually all 11 positions can be upgraded in someway... I don't know why the concentration has to be on Kai always.
Anyway, enjoy our win.
Involving in a meanlingless dog fight and you will get rabies like the bull$hitter.
