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Dani Ceballos: Back For Another Season

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by yousif_arsenal, Sep 4, 2020.

  1. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    We should have tried to buy him this summer. His value is only going to go up and Madrid will need the money for Camavinga. I have huge hopes for Ceballos.

    Him, Partey and Willian in a 3 on paper should make our central area potent. 3 hard workers, who are all quality on the ball.
     
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  2. GunnerBP

    GunnerBP Well-Known Member Trusted

    I hope in the next couple of matches we see Ceballos at AM with Xhaka and Partey behind him.

    Ceballos has the technique and vision to be dangerous in a more attacking position, but he also has the workrate and strength to press the defense and win back possession.

    A midfield three of Ceballos, Xhaka, and Partey can be really good.
     
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  3. Makavelii

    Makavelii Well-Known Member

    Was our second best player against City (after Saka).
    Made some incisive passes and won the ball back several times launching counter attacks. We seemed most likely to score in a few of these cases.

    Could have done more defensively for the goal though when he and Xhaka left a hole in midfield for Aguero to run into.
     
  4. Football Manager

    Football Manager Copy & Paste Merchant

    If we have the right players (quicker defenders), our defensive line could push higher with our front line when we press. So our midfield will not have gaps (as our front line and defensive line are close together).

    But in our plan, we have a deeper defensive line, to prevent their strikers runing past our defenders (although it will leave gaps in the midfield). Our CMs were pushed up so that we can create an effective press. If the plan went well, city should be struggled to build from the back, they will be forced to go long. Despite us pressing well as a unit, Guardiola finds a way to create the spare man, and break our press. If this happened, they could exploit the gap we have left in the midfield. You can see the goal we conceded is similar to the one we conceded to Chelsea in the FA cup final.

    I watched bits the match casually (not using an analysing mind to watch it). So I am not sure how Guardiola beat our press (Could be that they have tuck in a winger centrally to create more numbers for passing options).

    For us, one solution is of course have a quicker defender, so that we can push our defensive up to close the midfield gaps. But more importantly, I would like to go back and watch the match again, to see if Arteta was reactive to Guardiola’s way of getting out from our press. Did Arteta make tweaks to shxt down guardiola’s solution? Or did he create another problem for Guardiola to solve?
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2020
  5. krackpot

    krackpot Established Member

    People still expecting him to better than what they have been seeing for the past two season?

    NeEdS BeTtEr PlAyErS aRoUnD hIm.
     
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  6. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    I liked Ceballos yesterday. He had little to work with though and minimal movement. There were a couple of times where he's had to stop with the ball and tell his team mates to move into space.

    Don't want to see him so out attacking midfielder though, prefer him as our fulcrum.
     
  7. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Yes he was trying to do something positive with Saka i like his defensive work and workrate at times.
     
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  8. blaze_of_glory

    blaze_of_glory Moderator Moderator

    Forgot he was playing at times today. Didn't get on the ball nearly enough and along with both other midfielders went backwards too often when he did have it.
     
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  9. TakeChillPill

    TakeChillPill Well-Known Member

    Why was he playing as a RB at times. I have no idea what arteta is doing with his formations.
     
  10. mpower2540

    mpower2540 Well-Known Member

    Think he’s hideously overrated, lots of neat and tidy pretty touches but such little thrust. Think he was carrying a bit of a knock but I’m genuinely not bothered about keeping him. Classic possession player who doesn’t actually get you anywhere but the stuff he does looks good.
     
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  11. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Very poor today. But that like his first bad game for a while so no need to be harsh
     
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  12. blaze_of_glory

    blaze_of_glory Moderator Moderator

    He's had some really good patches but seems inconsistent. Unless he's really fired up he seems to stop trying to make anything happen
     
  13. Tourbillion

    Tourbillion Angry & Miserable

    Pack his ****ing bags.
     
  14. Tourbillion

    Tourbillion Angry & Miserable

    He doesn't even have pretty touches.

    Best he's given us so far was defensive hustle at the end of last season. Is that what we want a "technical" CM for?
     
  15. Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility

    Ozil'sCloakOfInvisibility Not a Closet Spurs Fan

    He doesn't do well on the right. Has tunnel vision. Created a good chance for Saka with a great cross but didn't do well after that.
     
  16. mpower2540

    mpower2540 Well-Known Member

    I’d rather have kept Guendouzi and tried to improve him and I’m not even a guendouzi fan. This guy just has so many traits I don’t like in a footballer, slow, fancies himself with about 10 touches so he slows the game down completely, weak as piss but hey he can cruyff turn back towards his own goal when he’s about to be caught. He’s clearly got technical ability but he’s so easily countered, just a meh player to me.
     
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  17. truth_hurts

    truth_hurts Well-Known Member

    Poor game. Wasn't clear what his role was. He'll come good.
     
  18. krengon

    krengon One Arsene Wenger Trusted

    Looked like he did most of last season. Hopefully that run to end the season wasn't a fluke and this is not what he really is like.
     
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  19. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    He's an actual footballer, unlike some of the utter shyte around him. No, he wont turn it on every week. But it's clear as day he's high quality.
     
  20. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    He’s had maybe 3 good games since he’s been here. Was poor till June/July last season.
     

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