✍️ OFFICIAL Declan Rice

[MikelHadADream]

Henderson had the chance to play in a team with Wijnaldum and Fabinho on their prime and with the best front 3 in Mane-Firminho-Salah and Van Dijk/Alison in the back. Rice would have performed the same in that team.

Yet our team is nowhere near the level of Liverpool (yet). So we will need a better player.

Or let me rephrase, would you have taken Henderson as a starter in our team as improvement of Xhaka?

Yep, Henderson between 2017-2020 was dominating the likes of Bayern and Barcelona in the CL. He’s a lot more proven than Xhaka. Very disrespected player (as is Xhaka).

 

[ArsenesCoatMaker]

No he hasn't. Rose tinted fans like you are like why he was one of highest rated players in a match on a fan rating site when he came on as sub and hardly touched the ball.

Partey comes no where near Rodri statistically.

Partey has improved immensely from last season (in which he was dross) and at his best is very good. Partey, however, is far too inconsistent and dropped far too many poor performances to be considered amongst Rodri, Casemiro and Rice this season. Partey is in the next bracket with Caicedo and Norgaard and it's debatable he's been even been better than them.

It's clear Partey has been our weakest performing player this season in our starting 11 again. Jorginho in his short time here has shown the gulf of technical ability and positional awareness between the two.

Your argument completely fell apart any sense of credibility when you claimed Casemiro to be the better CM. Casemiro's range of passing is nowhere near Partey's, neither is his press resistance.

 

[Mitch]

Your argument completely fell apart any sense of credibility when you claimed Casemiro to be the better CM. Casemiro's range of passing is nowhere near Partey's, neither is press resistance.

Partey's range of passing comes no where near Jorginho.

Casemiro has been excellent for utd and between Martinez and him for their player this season from what I've seen. Granted, Partey has a better range of passing, a good dribbler and Partey is very good at evading the press (Torrieria like in that instance). However in terms of defensive as aspects of game there is no denying Casemiro has been superior this season.it certainly clear who has been more consistent of the two.

 

[Batman]

Arteta and Edu also rated Willian, Mari, Cedric, Lokonga, Runarsson, ...

They did not rate Willock and if we had Willock now for the 8, we may not have this discussion at all...

Willock is right where he should be, at a smaller club more in line with his level. He's not remotely a title winning player.

 

[Batman]

The same midfield that bossed and bullied by Everton?

No Partey hasn't. Rose tinted fans like you are the reason why he was one of highest rated players in a match on a fan rating site when he came on as sub and hardly touched the ball.

Partey comes no where near Rodri statistically.

Partey has improved immensely from last season (in which he was dross) and at his best is very good. Partey, however, is far too inconsistent and dropped far too many poor performances to be considered amongst Rodri, Casemiro and Rice this season. Partey is in the next bracket with Caicedo and Norgaard and it's debatable he's been even been better than them.

It's clear Partey has been our weakest performing player this season in our starting 11 again. Jorginho in his short time here has shown the gulf of technical ability and positional awareness between the two.

You're like a parody poster. Apparently viewing our most important midfielder who has us 8 points clear at the top of the league as a great player is rose tinted. See how your example is 1 bad team performance against Everton when Partey as the only player keeping it from being much worse but you don't care that Rodri was getting bullied for an entire half by the Tottenham midfield? You're comparing statistics like they have the same responsibility in the respective systems that they play in which they don't.

Then you bring up Jorginho and say he's somehow an improvement on Partey which is so dumb that it hurts me to even type it out. The fact is that Partey as the anchor of this midfield has got his team above where Rodri has his and he's done so by excelling in the role he's asked to play. He's been more consistent than Ødegaard to be quite frank but we all know why that statement of fact doesn't sit reich with you.

 

[Riou]

This thread already feels like a disaster, and the transfer window is nowhere near being open yet ffs

 

[Chicago_Gunner]

This thread already feels like a disaster, and the transfer window is nowhere near being open yet ffs

I don’t know why I even open this thread anymore. Addiction to AM is strong.

 

[Mitch]

You're like a parody poster. Apparently viewing our most important midfielder who has us 8 points clear at the top of the league as a great player is rose tinted. See how your example is 1 bad team performance against Everton when Partey as the only player keeping it from being much worse but you don't care that Rodri was getting bullied for an entire half by the Tottenham midfield? You're comparing statistics like they have the same responsibility in the respective systems that they play in which they don't.


Then you bring up Jorginho and say he's somehow an improvement on Partey which is so dumb that it hurts me to even type it out. The fact is that Partey as the anchor of this midfield has got his team above where Rodri has his and he's done so by excelling in the role he's asked to play. He's been more consistent than Ødegaard to be quite frank but we all know why that statement of fact doesn't sit reich with you.

You remind me of that Iraq PR guy giving interview at the time of the invasion of Iraq. The PR guy was in total denial that they were losing the war and adamant/ delusional they were winning.

You can't pretend, deny and re-wtrite history regarding Partey numer off poor performances. Go on the Partey thread on certain match days you will see it not just me but many other who have highlighted in the thread when he has been poor.

Partey is not the most important CM. You can't produce the amount of performances that Partey has done and be viewed as the most important cm. In particular when Xhaka has been far most consistent, and that new signing Jorginho is undoubtedly superior technical aspects of game.

Partey on his day is great player, however to say Partey and his lack of consistency throughout the season has been better than Rodri, Casemiro and Rice is just rose tinted specs.

 

[Mitch]

He's been more consistent than Ødegaard to be quite frank but we all know why that statement of fact doesn't sit reich with you.

First point - you're comparing the London player of the season and a player who many pundits say it's between him, Saka and Haaland for the player the season to our weakest performing player in our starting 11 this season.

Secondly, what are you implying by your last comment?

 

[Rasmi]

You remind me of that Iraq PR guy giving interview at the time of the invasion of Iraq. The PR guy was in total denial that they were losing the war and adamant/ delusional they were winning.

You can't pretend, deny and re-wtrite history regarding Partey numer off poor performances. Go on the Partey thread on certain match days you will see it not just me but many other who have highlighted in the thread when he has been poor.

Partey is not the most important CM. You can't produce the amount of performances that Partey has done and be viewed as the most important cm. In particular when Xhaka has been far most consistent, and that new signing Jorginho is undoubtedly superior technical aspects of game.

Partey on his day is great player, however to say Partey and his lack of consistency throughout the season has been better than Rodri, Casemiro and Rice is just rose tinted specs.

Casemiro had more poor games than Partey. Hell he started as bench player for United and struggled first few weeks. And even after he settled he had several poor games including the cup final he scored in he was average and they were dominated in midfield

 

[Vinci]

Not gone down too well at KUMB that, understandably.

Appreciate him?

That's just a friendly way of saying 'we aren't all that interested, but might give you call if we become very desperate.'

 

[Tir Na Nog]

Appreciate him?

That's just a friendly way of saying 'we aren't all that interested, but might give you call if we become very desperate.'

Yeah it's a weird one, there was reports a while back that we'd definitely be making a move for him and that he wanted to come but now it's regressed to us "appreciating" him along with Chelsea.

I wonder if it's a case of too much noise around this one for it to actually happen.

 

[bastun]

Why is anyone arguing with Mitch about Partey lol. You don't even need to bring his undeniable qualities. He is literally the one holding this amazing team together. Its not a coincidence all our losses this season are with him being unavailable.

 

[BigPoppaPump]

Does not matter if Rice is £50m or £80m, he just doesn't suit our football.

I don't understand what people really see in Rice, am I the only one that thinks that he is just another Henderson? He is not better than Partey and not a real 8. I would rather have a trully box to box number 8 than a converted 6 playing 8.

And if we are going to splash £80m, should we not try first Bruno Guimarães who is closes in quality to Partey?

It’s just English hype from the media. Rice is a poddler, the type of football we play is decades past his level. He’s a huge step down on all our midfielders.

 

[Bloodbather]

You're like a parody poster. Apparently viewing our most important midfielder who has us 8 points clear at the top of the league as a great player is rose tinted. See how your example is 1 bad team performance against Everton when Partey as the only player keeping it from being much worse but you don't care that Rodri was getting bullied for an entire half by the Tottenham midfield? You're comparing statistics like they have the same responsibility in the respective systems that they play in which they don't.

Then you bring up Jorginho and say he's somehow an improvement on Partey which is so dumb that it hurts me to even type it out. The fact is that Partey as the anchor of this midfield has got his team above where Rodri has his and he's done so by excelling in the role he's asked to play. He's been more consistent than Ødegaard to be quite frank but we all know why that statement of fact doesn't sit reich with you.

He's just being a bigot about it. Criticised Partey as overrated for so long, can't adapt his opinion in the face of new data. It's an ego thing I reckon.

 

[North5]

The same midfield that bossed and bullied by Everton?

No Partey hasn't. Rose tinted fans like you are the reason why he was one of highest rated players in a match on a fan rating site when he came on as sub and hardly touched the ball.

Partey comes no where near Rodri statistically.

Partey has improved immensely from last season (in which he was dross) and at his best is very good. Partey, however, is far too inconsistent and dropped far too many poor performances to be considered amongst Rodri, Casemiro and Rice this season. Partey is in the next bracket with Caicedo and Norgaard and it's debatable he's been even been better than them.

It's clear Partey has been our weakest performing player this season in our starting 11 again. Jorginho in his short time here has shown the gulf of technical ability and positional awareness between the two.

I'm a big fan of Rice and think he will become fully world class here under Arteta. But Partey has been the best DM in the league

 

[2Smokeyy]

He’s sounding like @albino here

Not for me, Clive.

 

[Gooner Zig]

Bring Deccy home Edu

 

[Gooner Zig]

The "Welcome to Arsenal" Declan Rice thread is going to be quite awkward for some AM posters

 

[TH14shahriar]

This is the most active thread on AM, quite embarrassing tbh. You should all walk out with shame. It's like we're after Messi at his prime, chill.