Dennis Bergkamp and His Fear Of Flying

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by DLC, Dec 11, 2003.

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  1. DLC

    DLC New Member

    I was having a debate with a mate today over Dennis Bergkamp. He believes our European chances have been adversly affected in previous years by Dennis' fear of flying. I agree that we often had to change our style as a result but should we try techniques such as hypnotism or sedation to get him on a plane?

    He has his reasons for his fear and perhaps we should respect that. However, modern techniques have improved and i know someone that has overcome her fear of flying. So should we let him be or try and help him?

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  2. AFCG7

    AFCG7 New Member Elite

    I'm not sure one way or the other .. but someone must have tried to convince him to get over it, obviously it hasnt worked so far.
    I dont know anyone personally who has a fear of flying so i really dont know how bad it is with Dennis.. but his situation was very traumatic because he had a scare himself while on a flight and then the entire under 23 team died in a plane crash, some of those on the team were close friends.
    Some people never recover from that kind of trauma and maybe even thinking of flying affects him that much mentally that it would be better for him to stay away.
    But , if there was a chance that he could be 'cured' and he agrees to trying it then i think he should go ahead.
  3. VCC

    VCC New Member Elite

    He's said he has tried treatment, none of them ever worked.
  4. The Mini

    The Mini New Member

    This is more than someone having a fear of spiders because they're icky... his dad died on one, it's quite distressing.
  5. lewdikris

    lewdikris New Member Elite

    I think it's a bit late now to be honest...

    Dennis' fear isn't so much an irrational phobia, which can be treated - more that he took a decision not to fly again after two horrible incidents.

    5 years ago i'd of said yes, but in his last season it's a waste of time.
  6. Adam

    Adam New Member Elite

    Kanu looks like he will have an effect away from home this season.
  7. melto

    melto New Member

    Maybe it has in the past effected us but what is the problem, we have just finished top of our group without him being at the away games so we did not need him anyway??

    also agree with an earlier comment he might not even be there to travel next season
  8. beaney

    beaney New Member Trusted

    let him be i say, a fear of flying is something hard to overcome and if he can live with without flying thats up to him.
  9. va_va_voom

    va_va_voom New Member Trusted

    You'd bet ya mortgage on him driving to Germany for the final of the Champs League though if we got there wouldn't you!!!!!
  10. melto

    melto New Member

    ha ha ha

    how very true va va voom :D
  11. Archie The Leper

    Archie The Leper New Member

    What like BA out of the A-Team, you don't know who your messin' with fool
  12. Adam

    Adam New Member Elite

    I remember there was a chance he was going to drive to the Dortmund away game last season. Wenger drew the line. I don't think he'd do that to Dennis in his last season if we did get to the final.
  13. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    bergkamp is a massive burden on the team. Does not travel and score .

    You guys might say he provides, i say Henry is the assist king now!

    he is old and should have retired last year

    Players like him stop talent like Ali to flurish and he should realise that
  14. melto

    melto New Member

    bit harsh on Bergkamp that aint it mate??? how can you say he is too old when outrun the brummie defence from the half way line,


    who sets up henry for most of his goals, Bergy certainly set him up enough against loco, so lay off Dennis!!!!
  15. mephisto

    mephisto New Member

  16. johe

    johe New Member

    I can't get the player websites to work, they just show the menus without text :(
    The main page works tho
  17. SF Gooner

    SF Gooner New Member

    You can' get on Bergkamp. He has done so much for this club, and while he's not what he used to be, he still makes an impact on the field when he's out there. He's one of the best players ever to me and the sole reason why I started to watch Arsenal.
  18. Alexone234

    Alexone234 New Member

    The thing with treatment for a phobia is that you know that once the treatment is over, you are going to put yourself in a position near whatever the phobia is.

    Example. DB is scared of flying. DB knows if he has treatment, he will get on a plane. Therefore DB doesn't want treatment because he doesn't want to get on the plane.
  19. koivu

    koivu New Member Trusted

    I agree, you cannot talk smack about Bergy after all he has done...He is also my favourite player of all-time, and the main reason I started supporting Arsenal. He's still capable of doing great things.
  20. MancunianGunner

    MancunianGunner New Member

    still waitin for the bugger to flourish.

    i'll be well annoyed if bergkamp starts taking flying lessons now that he's retired.
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