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Dennis Praet

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Decent player but ultimately uninspiring. Not enough of a goal/assists threat at #10, isn't a destroyer/ball-winner and isn't a distributor either. Hard to know what function he serves in an Emery 4-2-3-1.
Yeah, he is just pretty much a more fancy Elneny.
 

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Decent player but ultimately uninspiring. Not enough of a goal/assists threat at #10, isn't a destroyer/ball-winner and isn't a distributor either. Hard to know what function he serves in an Emery 4-2-3-1.
For a team of our quality compared to Sampdoria he seems more like a Xhaka replacement than a Ramsey replacement. Looks very solid but nothing special in the final third
 

Slartibartfast

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Decent player but ultimately uninspiring. Not enough of a goal/assists threat at #10, isn't a destroyer/ball-winner and isn't a distributor either. Hard to know what function he serves in an Emery 4-2-3-1.

He's not a No. 10. Think of him more as a quicker, more mobile, more active Xhaka who is able to dribble and move the ball forward while being more intelligent, less prone to big mistakes and better on the press. He would probably play in a 3-man midfield in a 4-3-3 (he and Torreira were teamed in a 4-3-1-2 at Sampdoria, quite successfully). Arsenal may want him to improve on his goalscoring and assist record, but that's not really the major point.
 

TornadoTed

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4-3-1-2 could work for us because lets face it Özil isn't leaving and he is a good a player even if he is inconsistent as hell to not use at all.

Torreira Praet Xhaka
Özil
Laca Auba
 

UpTheGunnerz

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4-3-1-2 could work for us because lets face it Özil isn't leaving and he is a good a player even if he is inconsistent as hell to not use at all.

Torreira Praet Xhaka
Özil
Laca Auba

Don't even think Özil is a good player anymore, since that should be rated from consistency. Need something new and more hungry
 

OnlyOne

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Isn't that the kind of player we should be looking for though? Especially with Ramsey and Özil both on the way out.

I could see us bringing in ACM as that player to add goals/assists from the midfield, behind the strikers is his best position, apparently. So it's possible Praet could be a Xhaka replacement.

However who knows, we'll see.
 
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14Henry

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4-3-1-2 could work for us because lets face it Özil isn't leaving and he is a good a player even if he is inconsistent as hell to not use at all.

Torreira Praet Xhaka
Özil
Laca Auba

But aren't we in desperate need for a wide attacking player. This is back to narrow football as with 4 in the back it may be harder for the wing backs to make those runs forward and us being defensively solid too.
 

Slartibartfast

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Isn't that the kind of player we should be looking for though? Especially with Ramsey and Özil both on the way out.

It depends. If Xhaka leaves, Praet would provide a more well-rounded replacement. If Xhaka stays, he would be a more well-rounded replacement for Elneny. He wouldn't be replacing Ramsey or Özil. He would just be giving Arsenal another option in central midfield.
 

Slartibartfast

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4-3-1-2 could work for us because lets face it Özil isn't leaving and he is a good a player even if he is inconsistent as hell to not use at all.

Torreira Praet Xhaka
Özil
Laca Auba

I've thought about that. Özil or not, it would be a way of keeping Aubameyang and Lacazette together without moving one of them wide (I mean, Aubameyang ends up in there anyway, so it maybe doesn't matter). But if Carrasco comes, he would be a player for the 4-2-3-1/4-3-3. But it could be something Emery might experiment with at times.
 

TornadoTed

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But aren't we in desperate need for a wide attacking player. This is back to narrow football as with 4 in the back it may be harder for the wing backs to make those runs forward and us being defensively solid too.

I totally agree, it wouldn't be my choice of formation at all but we have several big problems.

2 of our best players are strikers
Özil is most likely staying
Xhaka isn't dynamic enough for a 2 man midfield, his limitations may be covered better in a 3 man midfield
 

14Henry

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I totally agree, it wouldn't be my choice of formation at all but we have several big problems.

2 of our best players are strikers
Özil is most likely staying
Xhaka isn't dynamic enough for a 2 man midfield, his limitations may be covered better in a 3 man midfield

If it is 4 3 1 2 where is the creativity coming from? Özil isn't the one. So if we are playing this system we need a new number 10.

It can't come too much from full backs because kolasinac can't play in a 4. Bellerin may not be back to after the start of the season. AMN in a back 4 im not sure.

If we do play 4 and let our full backs bomb and say a Xhaka drops into the back to form a 3 during a counter attack again we are left with Xhaka responsible for tracking and defender. He can't turn or move direction quickly which counter attacks usually involve. Sokratis over 5 or 6 yards is ok but more again dodgy. Holding isn't exactly quick either.

Hard to know what way things will pan out.
 

Slartibartfast

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At the risk of breaking the "He's ****! Poverty player!" monotony, Mahith Gamage spent some time actually analyzing several Sampdoria games and gives his opinion on what Praet and Andersen would bring to the Arsenal team.

 

TornadoTed

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If it is 4 3 1 2 where is the creativity coming from? Özil isn't the one. So if we are playing this system we need a new number 10.

We are stuck with Özil until the end of his contract so I'm just trying to work out how we can make the best of a complete cluster **** of a situation. I don't see us signing another number 10 while he is here and I also don't see us letting a £350k player rot in the reserves. I have the feeling he will feature as much next season as this season so I'm just trying to work out how we negate that sad possibility.
 
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