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Eddie Nketiah: Better than R9?
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Mark Tobias
Mr. Agreeable
TBF, I can remember at the time being disappointed in the Sanogo buy because I too wanted more game time for Afobe. I did find it strange we let him go so early.
I hear your take on UTD academy rejects but we have a way of doing things. We're the classy club (at least we like to think so) and as such we try to do things which are in everbody's interests (player included). Sure we get this wrong and it also bites us in the a$$ often but I feel pride in that.
Because most teams that Arsenal loan their players to are a bad fit and never work out. In fact this might be regular amongst the top 6. Harry Kane, as noted above, failed on almost all of his loans to do anything substantial. Sometimes the loans aren't the answer.
I think we do better than other teams, but the PL in general is terrible for bringing younger players through - and with the influx of real talents now coming through in the country at a number of clubs, this does need to change as soon as possible, especially if England want to get anywhere internationally.
Me personally, I'm not that bothered with England, but I was seduced by the idea of Arsenal having their own La Masia of sorts, playing the Arsenal way and producing first team capable players consistently. That should still be something we aim for IMO. But we'll never know how capable they are really if they don't play for us at some stage. Some will never get to that stage and I accept that. But perhaps this era of talent have earned enough of a right to get a look-in at least. I'm admittedly not a fan of the loan system either, simply because Arsenal fail to use it well, and loan clubs (particularly Championship teams) not only play very different to the way we want to play, but very often just refuse to play our players outside of unfruitful substitute appearances. Mavididi springs to mind as the biggest example of late, although his hamstring injuries haven't helped matters. Never got a decent look-in at Preston and when he went back to Charlton, they played him on the wing consistently when he's much better as a #9.
I hope if we're going to loan younger players to give them first team minutes this season, we are much more careful about who we loan them to and include clauses that necessitate first team appearances if we have to.
Mark Tobias
Mr. Agreeable
While I too love this idea, I also want to challenge for the league and in England you simply can't do both.
Therein lies the rub.
The club have to find a balance and in this uber competitive atmosphere, that means younger players are not going to get the chances they probably should get. You're gonna go for the surer thing. It disappoints me greatly but that can be assuaged if we actually challenge for something.
Things definitely have to change in England if they want to do this consistently. For now, the younger players are just going to have to really scrap and make their loans/small minute opportunities work. Even at a team like ours where we specifically give them games. They have to scrap, and work hard. I hope Emery gives them more of a team structure to fit into - Wenger gave them minutes but didn't really give them that in his later years - and that perhaps gives them the confidence to make a mark.
Lidl_Reed
Wants a new name
Loans are almost never the answer for us. There are very few teams that play the Arsenal way, and those that do are usually top teams in their own right.
The only loan in recent years that worked out sort of well for us was Wilshere to Bournemouth.
That's the similarity in style of play.
What was the point of Chambers to Middlesborough? Sure, he got game time, but his passing instincts are lower than they were, which is not what Wenger wanted from a CB. Note that last season, Chambers was our only CB whose first instinct was to clear the ball without thinking of passing it. Fine for Boro, but for us, that was not what we wanted. Mind, our other defenders were so garbage that it seemed an acceptable compromise, but ideally, that loan didn't work.
Similarly for strikers. We loan him out to some Championship team which lumps balls at him all game. Even most top Championship teams do this. What then? Will he develop?
Emery on how his centre forwards played…
I am very happy with their positioning off the ball and breaking the opposition’s lines. Then for the finishing, we want to continue on improving that, but we have very, very good strikers in Lacazette, Aubameyang and Nketiah. For me, the best situation tonight is that our striker took his chance tonight and grabbed the goal.
Hints at him being third choice in the position, promising...
I am very happy with their positioning off the ball and breaking the opposition’s lines. Then for the finishing, we want to continue on improving that, but we have very, very good strikers in Lacazette, Aubameyang and Nketiah. For me, the best situation tonight is that our striker took his chance tonight and grabbed the goal.
Hints at him being third choice in the position, promising...
Nketiah has lots to learn from Afobe who in turns has lots to learn from Joshua King. King needs to learn from Son Heung Min who needs to learn from Vardy and Vardy from Aubameyang and then Auba learn from Kane. Kane then must learn from Messi.
That's basically how it goes.
That's basically how it goes.
neimad
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I think Eddie would learn a lot from Aubamyeng and Lacazette up until January and if needed he could go on a loan then.
Mark Tobias
Mr. Agreeable
I like this idea. You have a fairly good idea of how many fronts you;re truly fighting on in a season by January and also an idea of your league chances. With that knowledge in mind you can make a better decision for both club and player,
he better get his chance while he is confident and scoring goals.
Have to agree here. Loan destinations should be chosen very carefully and not just for game time. In that sense the Nelson to Hoffenheim loan makes sense, e.g. If Nketiah cannot get loaned out to a team with a similar style he might as well stay til he gets a chance.
Country: Iceland
Hope Emery will start giving him a game time soon!
Lidl_Reed
Wants a new name
He's gonna make it, guys.
Laca, Auba, and then the new Henry in a couple of years
Laca, Auba, and then the new Henry in a couple of years
<<reed>>
Lidl Tir Na Nog
Let's be honest, Laca & Auba are going to be our strikers for the next 3 years.
The kid is fecked.
The kid is fecked.
al-Ustaadh
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He's not ****ed. We just need to be smart about how we loan him and he needs to not be afraid to go outside of the country for truly competitive first team experience. Hopefully, we can do something with him like we've done with Nelson.
Country: Iceland
He is big talent. Could easily become better than Lacazette and even Aubameyang too!
pigge
#Pigge #Equality
Player:Martinelli
If we are very very lucky he will maybe become as good as auba. He wont easily become anything imo.
Looks talented but thats just ott imo
SuperGoon
Debbie Downer
Country: Ireland
Player:Saka
Cringeworthy title. Almost Rawkworthy.
Mo Britain
Doom Monger
5 games in 12 days. If he doesn't get any playing time now he might as well start packing his bags.
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