Edu & Vinai: Progress in Process

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by OnlyOne, Aug 15, 2020.

  1. L3T5 PL4Y

    L3T5 PL4Y Flair Accuser

    Exactly what I suspect as well. If our window goes down the gutter you know who to go after here in AM.
  2. TornadoTed

    TornadoTed Well-Known Member

    Any evidence at all to back up 'he has nothing to offer'

    He may turn out to be terrible, average or brilliant. He has had 12 months in the job, during a turbulent phase and hasn't presided over a proper transfer window yet. Currently any conclusions about him are just pure prejudice.
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  3. L3T5 PL4Y

    L3T5 PL4Y Flair Accuser

    Well, there's no evidence for the contrary either.
  4. TornadoTed

    TornadoTed Well-Known Member

    How can there be, he's only been here 5 minutes, as I said he could turn out to be terrible, average or brilliant, only time will tell.

    What happened to giving someone a fair chance?

    From Mari being called 'one of the worst signings in our history' after 2 appearances to Soares, to Edu people are getting written off before they have been given an opportunity and I think it's unfair. Incidentally I am just as frustrated at the other end of the spectrum, Saliba being hailed as the 2nd coming of Baresi for example.
  5. Macho

    Macho Well-Known Member Trusted

    That's AM baybee.

    Worldclass or sh*te no in-between round here. Popularity is determined by your jaw/hairline.
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  6. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    Respect is something that needs to be earned, not given. So far the players we have signed under Edu haven't been at the level which makes me think he is earning his paycheck.
  7. Tourbillion

    Tourbillion Angry 24/7

    I would say:

    The End is 'Nai.
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  8. Gegen Pressing

    Gegen Pressing Well-Known Member

    Education is like vinaigrette- it's about good chemistry .

    And so the focus should be on Arteta + team not on who is doing the accounting (Vinai), who's writing the contracts (Fahmy) and who's flying to South America (Edu). Trust the man in charge and that's Arteta.
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  9. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant and Believer-In-Chief

    The impression I got from the Athletic/Handbrake off podcast was that Tim Lewis is very much going in and auditing the way Arsenal is run. First result of that audit was living the director of football out.

    Think the importance of this has been overlooked. Kicking out the director of football out in the middle of contract and transfer negotiations is a major thing. Everyone presented it as amicable but it was a major firing
  10. HairSprayGooners

    HairSprayGooners Al Jazeera Correspondent

    Don Edu has aged about 20 years already in this window.
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  11. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    Responsibility for transfers has to fall on Edu. It’s a big test for him, he needs to deliver. Get the players Mikel wants.
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  12. HairSprayGooners

    HairSprayGooners Al Jazeera Correspondent

    Huge test.

    He has things in his favour though. Groundwork was already in place for Gabriel and Partey. And his mate Juninho will be very easy to talk to at Lyon for Aouar.

    He could make a huge name for himself here in this role.
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  13. TornadoTed

    TornadoTed Well-Known Member

    Totally agree that respect has to earned but in my opinion so does scorn. He hasn't had an opportunity to earn either yet in my opinion. I don't count a January transfer window with no transfer funds and only access to the loan market.

    I will start to judge Edu one way or the other at the end of this coming season. Only then will his first proper transfer windows signings have been given a decent sample size to prove or disprove their worth.
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  14. Ibadan

    Ibadan Gagan Jr

    Interesting article on how we're adapting our scouting practises. Gist of the article: Arsenal plan to identify new talent by investing in new sport tech - boot sensors.
    The sensors identify things like shot power, sprint speed, movements touches; all measured and assessed by the software and coaches in minutes.
    The plan is to use stat and video analysis to identify potential new players and then ask their parent club if we can fit them with boot sensors to judge different characteristics. We will also use the tech to identify weaknesses and potential improvements in existing players.

    Article says this was one of Arsène's ideas before he was forced out. Arsène is actually an investor in the company that creates the boot sensors. The current management has followed through.

    If we're doing this, we obviously don't need as many scouts. If this article is accurate, It justifies making so many scouts redundant.
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  15. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Vinai Venkatesham Stan Trusted

    I can't read. Any chance you could send me a voice note of the article?
    Ibadan and say yes like this.
  16. Ibadan

    Ibadan Gagan Jr

    My daddy @GDeep™ doesn't like me talking to men without his permission, I'll have to ask him first:(
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  17. GoonerJeeves

    GoonerJeeves Up The Terriers

    Guess it'll turn sour.
  18. Gegen Pressing

    Gegen Pressing Well-Known Member

    Experience with Brazil NT gives us access to South American market that is really a huge .
    Glorified scout maybe but at least a good scout. (Martinelli&Gabriel). Let's trust Arteta's judgement on this.
  19. hydrofluoric acid

    hydrofluoric acid Dishonest To His Federation

    I don't understand. How do we convince the parent club of the player to allow us to put a boot sensor in their player? Do we pay them?

    Also, how do we identify the players we want to put boot sensors on without scouts?
  20. akhil

    akhil Well-Known Member

    ^^ Same thing I was thinking. We're gonna stick sensors into other clubs players? Who the ****'s going to allow that?!

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