Edu & Vinai: Progress in Process

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by OnlyOne, Aug 15, 2020.

  1. Iceman10

    Iceman10 Well-Known Member

    Apparently Vinai said yesterday that the club has money to spend on big buys without having to raise funds from sales. Doesn’t really pass the smell test for me.

    Good signs with Arteta and Edu, but maybe an unpopular opinion held here that there are still doubts about Vinai and whether he is just a BS’er who will protect Josh and Stan Kroenke from more scrutiny, and whether he is truly competent beyond his presentation (time will tell).

    Stan Kroenke has just overseen a stadium development in Los Angeles where costs ballooned from $2Bn to $5Bn, and Kroenke has been praised for the project by sticking with it with no expenses spared. If that’s his approach there, where is some of it manifesting at Arsenal? Would Vinai dare to ask Stan if he could do something similar to the cash injection loan Liverpool had a few seasons back (?).
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  2. Mrs Bergkamp

    Mrs Bergkamp Established Member

    Agree with this and this is the one time we can legitimately get an external cash injection from the owners. The other issue is that were selling the good sub players and keeping the dross because nobody wants them, thus weakening the squad. And thats not to mention the time we've lost integrating the new players we'll hopefully get. We finally have proper football men at the helm and I just hope there's a strong voice somewhere in there.
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  3. berric

    berric Well-Known Member

    Was just reading Amy's piece on Arsenal's structure in the Athletic.

    This part was particularly good to come across:

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  4. Pop Tart

    Pop Tart Well-Known Member

    I am excited josh
  5. Sammy1887

    Sammy1887 New Year, Same Hate For Reed

    Vinai/Edu/Kroenkes can go **** themselves. No place to hide now.
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  6. RandomHero84

    RandomHero84 Well-Known Member

    If we come out of this window without addressing our deficiencies, I'm done giving money to this club. I've paid for 2 season tickets for 12 years.

    Currently taken the season ticket holiday, so this will be a natural cut off point. We have a great manager, we have real methods and systems for dealing with bigger and stronger teams, and I've no doubt if Arteta could bring in the personnel, he'd want to play a more attacking game.

    Failure to back the manager this season really does resign us to a mid table club, and we will just be bending over and taking it for the sake of small margins.

    If they won't spend what's necessary, why should the fans bother.
  7. NieThePiet

    NieThePiet Loves Overhyping Our Rivals

    If we blame Edu and Vinai, we have to include Arteta too.

    Arteta isn't only a head coach anymore, he is the manager. He is part of the team for transfers.

    Just don't think it's right to blame them, if they have no support from Kroenke and Raul is sacked during the transfer period.
  8. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    Most of the blame goes to Stan for giving us no money, the rest to Ivan who ****ed off before getting the club in order after Arsène left in 2018.
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  9. Pop Tart

    Pop Tart Well-Known Member

    Arteta has only handled transfers for a month. No way at blame at all. He is new to this. Failed to back him.
  10. roz

    roz Fake News Merchant

    Not sure whether Arteta has final say on transfers. He might have some input but there’s no way he’s happy with the business we’ve done.
  11. MikelHadADream

    MikelHadADream Well-Known Member

    This is on the Kroenke's. Two world class midfielders on their knees to join us and they couldnt put an extra 50million quid into the club, we are well and truly done as a club.
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  12. Pop Tart

    Pop Tart Well-Known Member

    At least Wenger woukd offer 50 p more.
  13. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    How long we going to blame everyone but Stan? We done it with Wenger, now you guys want to blame Edu, Vinai and Arteta.

    The money is tight, Stan isn’t investing anything to support his new manager. We either accept that is the model of the club and suck it up, or we ask Stan why he cant throw some money our way.
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  14. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    Everton got a good manager, he was allowed to sign the 3/4 players he wanted and they are top atm.

    I’m not even sure we have the team to beat Sheffield Utd tomorrow, I think it’ll be a draw.
  15. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Vinai Venkatesham Stan Trusted

    What a f*cking dumb paragraph even for you. :lol::lol::lol:
  16. MikelHadADream

    MikelHadADream Well-Known Member

    There are loads of culprits, but like any failing organisation, the buck stops at at top. Either these chancers go or we are doomed as a football club.
  17. Pop Tart

    Pop Tart Well-Known Member

    No one wanted carlo here.
  18. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating

    The point is Everton backed him with 3/4 signings this summer. 3 new midfielders, that’s what Arteta needs and hasn’t got.
  19. MikelHadADream

    MikelHadADream Well-Known Member

    I dont see how Edu and Vinai are to blame here. The reason we can't get rid of players is because they're dogshit and on massive money. You cant sell them if no one wants them. People thinking we would be getting big money offers for Lacazette/Guendouzi/Torreira were deluding themselves.

    This summer required the Kroenke's to step in and help the club out of a difficult situation for once, and they've seemingly showed us their hand now.

    We're doomed to fail with this lot, make no mistake 6th to 8th position in the league will be the new norm at this club.
  20. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Dissociating


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