Edu’s Transfer Targets: Summer 2024 - Return of Inak

[Blankety Blank]

We then run into a Winger problem. Lets say we sign Isak then for winger we have Trossard/Jesus/Saka/Martinelli.
Only Martinelli is a direct threat with pace. One of Trossard/Jesus has to make way for another Winger then.

Isak can play as a wide forward & is pretty pacy.

That may almost solve the issue.

Edit: just seen that you don't agree so much.
Personally I would be happy with Isak filling '2 roles'

Tbh I'm not sure who we would target as a pacy wide forward/winger. Rodrygo may be a decent shout?

Would be great if we could find another Martinelli type on the cheap.

 

[Rasmi]

He has the stronger mentality based on what? You don't know Rodrygo or what his mentality is like. Just clownish. He gets played out of position and still puts up comparable numbers. Football is not just about marketing and pace, Rodrygo is a more skilled footballer than Vini with the difference being that one of them has been catered to and the other has had to adapt for the good of the team.

Your whole argument falls apart when you say one has been catered to while the other has to adopt for the good of the team. More talented players gets catered to while the lesser player has to adopt accordingly for the team. This happens everywhere even at Arsenal to a degree with how we use Saka and Martinelli where it’s built on saka getting more of the ball. I like Rodrygo and would be delighted if he came here. He is no Vini Jr

 

[Batman]

Your whole argument falls apart when you say one has been catered to while the other has to adopt for the good of the team. More talented players gets catered to while the lesser player has to adopt accordingly for the team. This happens everywhere even at Arsenal to a degree with how we use Saka and Martinelli where it’s built on saka getting more of the ball. I like Rodrygo and would be delighted if he came here. He is no Vini Jr

My argument was that he has the potential to eclipse Vini once he's in a situation that puts him in the position to maximize his talent. Vini is in that position, he isn't. By the way, Vini is going to have to adapt to cater to the much better player in Mbappe and we'll see how that affects him. We'll see if Vini can adapt the way Rodrygo has been required to. If he doesn't and Rodrygo explodes here or somewhere else then we'll see whose argument has fallen apart.

 

[HaffBR]

Rodrygo is better than Vini, superior football IQ, better technique (touch, passing, finesse), better mentality also... Vini is more energetic and rapid, but makes much more mistakes. Martinelli is better than both. Once he is employed with a good midfielder around him he will explode, much more lethal than both, as fast as Vini and way more tactical disciplined than both.

 

[TH14shahriar]

Rodrygo is better than Vini, superior football IQ, better technique (touch, passing, finesse), better mentality also... Vini is more energetic and rapid, but makes much more mistakes. Martinelli is better than both. Once he is employed with a good midfielder around him he will explode, much more lethal than both, as fast as Vini and way more tactical disciplined than both.

Kids, this is why you don't do coke!

 

[Henry boi]

Kids, this is why you don't do coke!

No it's his opinion and it's not that crazy

 

[TH14shahriar]

No it's his opinion and it's not that crazy

Just joking. Sure anyone can have an opinion, my opinion is that its crazy to think that Martinelli is better than both Vini and Rodrygo, you haven't watched them enough games if you believe that. Sorry.

 

[OnlyOne]

Just sign Nico Williams, he was class in the final last night.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Just sign Nico Williams, he was class in the final last night.

We barely play in finals though.

 

[HaffBR]

Just joking. Sure anyone can have an opinion, my opinion is that its crazy to think that Martinelli is better than both Vini and Rodrygo, you haven't watched them enough games if you believe that. Sorry.

You are the one who haven't watched enough games.

Martinelli had only 13000 minutes of professional carrer for example, Vinicius is bang on 25K and Rodrygo almost 20K... and while both had the ones of Kroos and Bellingham, Martinelli did their job last season with 15 non-penalty goals and 5 assists with a double pivot in Xhaka.
This year he has been sided for Arteta, isolated and with the Havertz LCM experiment. Different setups.

Also Madrid is about counter attacking and rapid transition something that Martinelli exceeds and is one of the most dangerous players in the world. Vinicius, for example, wasn't that good - in fact he was very bad - while playing with Zidane (who had similar approach with Arteta); Vinicius is largely considered a flop with Brazilian NT too. Rodrygo, while better, isn't the new Neymar either.

 

[Xln]

You are the one who haven't watched enough games.

Martinelli had only 13000 minutes of professional carrer for example, Vinicius is bang on 25K and Rodrygo almost 20K... and while both had the ones of Kroos and Bellingham, Martinelli did their job last season with 15 non-penalty goals and 5 assists with a double pivot in Xhaka.
This year he has been sided for Arteta, isolated and with the Havertz LCM experiment. Different setups.

Also Madrid is about counter attacking and rapid transition something that Martinelli exceeds and is one of the most dangerous players in the world. Vinicius, for example, wasn't that good - in fact he was very bad - while playing with Zidane (who had similar approach with Arteta); Vinicius is largely considered a flop with Brazilian NT too. Rodrygo, while better, isn't the new Neymar either.

I agree. Martinelli in the minutes he got for Brazil looked much better than Rodrygo and Vini.

 

[TheDrunkenMaster]

Rodrygo is better than Vini, superior football IQ, better technique (touch, passing, finesse), better mentality also... Vini is more energetic and rapid, but makes much more mistakes. Martinelli is better than both. Once he is employed with a good midfielder around him he will explode, much more lethal than both, as fast as Vini and way more tactical disciplined than both.

Is this some kind of joke from the worst take thread. Martinelli better than Rodrigo und Vinicius

 

[Ash10]

Rodrygo is better than Vini, superior football IQ, better technique (touch, passing, finesse), better mentality also... Vini is more energetic and rapid, but makes much more mistakes. Martinelli is better than both. Once he is employed with a good midfielder around him he will explode, much more lethal than both, as fast as Vini and way more tactical disciplined than both.

You are the one who haven't watched enough games.

Martinelli had only 13000 minutes of professional carrer for example, Vinicius is bang on 25K and Rodrygo almost 20K... and while both had the ones of Kroos and Bellingham, Martinelli did their job last season with 15 non-penalty goals and 5 assists with a double pivot in Xhaka.
This year he has been sided for Arteta, isolated and with the Havertz LCM experiment. Different setups.

Also Madrid is about counter attacking and rapid transition something that Martinelli exceeds and is one of the most dangerous players in the world. Vinicius, for example, wasn't that good - in fact he was very bad - while playing with Zidane (who had similar approach with Arteta); Vinicius is largely considered a flop with Brazilian NT too. Rodrygo, while better, isn't the new Neymar either.

You're bang on with both of these posts, most people here just listen to media instead of watching games

 

[TH14shahriar]

You are the one who haven't watched enough games.

Martinelli had only 13000 minutes of professional carrer for example, Vinicius is bang on 25K and Rodrygo almost 20K... and while both had the ones of Kroos and Bellingham, Martinelli did their job last season with 15 non-penalty goals and 5 assists with a double pivot in Xhaka.
This year he has been sided for Arteta, isolated and with the Havertz LCM experiment. Different setups.

Also Madrid is about counter attacking and rapid transition something that Martinelli exceeds and is one of the most dangerous players in the world. Vinicius, for example, wasn't that good - in fact he was very bad - while playing with Zidane (who had similar approach with Arteta); Vinicius is largely considered a flop with Brazilian NT too. Rodrygo, while better, isn't the new Neymar either.

Yeah sure I've not watched them. This is pure Arsenal bias.

 

[drippin]

I'm starting to think that this might be the most realistic business. This squad would have 25 players when you include Nwaneri.

I also think there is a small possibility that Gyökeres could cover LW, because he is fast and can dribble. And he drifts to the wings for Sporting often, and even top team defenders look like they fear him and don't want to engage.

How do people see the new winger suggestion? How can you fit him to this team? Leave Nwaneri out, and be totally stacked in attack?

Gyökeres, Diomande and Zubimendi would cost like 215 million pounds? Are there more funds to use?

Luiz with two years left and Villa getting UCL might be tough to get, so I'm not holding out much hope for that. Maybe the year after with one year left in contract. The year after you could get Luiz to replace both Jorginho and Partey. In this way I would be happy even with Onana for a year.

GK: Raya, GK, Youth GK

LB: Timber, Zinchenko

RB: White, Tomiyasu

LCB: Gabriel, Kiwior

RCB: Saliba, Diomande

DMF:Luiz/Zubimendi/Onana, Partey, Jorginho

LCM: Rice, ESR

RCM: Ødegaard, Vieira

LW: Martinelli, Trossard, Nwaneri

RW: Saka, Jesus

ST: Gyökeres, Havertz

HG: Raya, White, Saliba, Rice, Martinelli, Saka, ESR, Nwaneri, Youth GK

 

[drippin]

I'm starting to think that this might be the most realistic business. This squad would have 25 players when you include Nwaneri.

I also think there is a small possibility that Gyökeres could cover LW, because he is fast and can dribble. And he drifts to the wings for Sporting often, and even top team defenders look like they fear him and don't want to engage.

How do people see the new winger suggestion? How can you fit him to this team? Leave Nwaneri out, and be totally stacked in attack?

Gyökeres, Diomande and Zubimendi would cost like 215 million pounds? Are there more funds to use?

Luiz with two years left and Villa getting UCL might be tough to get, so I'm not holding out much hope for that. Maybe the year after with one year left in contract. The year after you could get Luiz to replace both Jorginho and Partey. In this way I would be happy even with Onana for a year.

GK: Raya, GK, Youth GK

LB: Timber, Zinchenko

RB: White, Tomiyasu

LCB: Gabriel, Kiwior

RCB: Saliba, Diomande

DMF:Luiz/Zubimendi/Onana, Partey, Jorginho

LCM: Rice, ESR

RCM: Ødegaard, Vieira

LW: Martinelli, Trossard, Nwaneri

RW: Saka, Jesus

ST: Gyökeres, Havertz

HG: Raya, White, Saliba, Rice, Martinelli, Saka, ESR, Nwaneri, Youth GK

Forgot to say, but this would also enable to see if Jesus and ESR can stay fit.

And also if Nwaneri is good enough to have a squad role. And if Vieira will be good enough or not.

People want a fast winger, and it is needed in the future. But like this season by going for Havertz and not buying a proper midfielder, it could be best to improve the other areas first. And then buy a top winger the year after, when all is clear.

There is good depth in this squad. And even this season we can see that with Jesus and Trossard being in the squad, it's possible to lead the scoring table in the league. Jesus and Trossard are not that slow, and they make up some of it with their dribbling ability on the wings.

 

[SA Gunner]

Rodrygo is better than Vini, superior football IQ, better technique (touch, passing, finesse), better mentality also... Vini is more energetic and rapid, but makes much more mistakes. Martinelli is better than both. Once he is employed with a good midfielder around him he will explode, much more lethal than both, as fast as Vini and way more tactical disciplined than both.

Do you see Rodygo as a touchline winger, or more of a midfielder?

Whenever I see him in possession for Madrid, he tends to drift inside into the 8/10 role.

 

[North5]

I'm starting to think that this might be the most realistic business. This squad would have 25 players when you include Nwaneri.

I also think there is a small possibility that Gyökeres could cover LW, because he is fast and can dribble. And he drifts to the wings for Sporting often, and even top team defenders look like they fear him and don't want to engage.

How do people see the new winger suggestion? How can you fit him to this team? Leave Nwaneri out, and be totally stacked in attack?

Gyökeres, Diomande and Zubimendi would cost like 215 million pounds? Are there more funds to use?

Luiz with two years left and Villa getting UCL might be tough to get, so I'm not holding out much hope for that. Maybe the year after with one year left in contract. The year after you could get Luiz to replace both Jorginho and Partey. In this way I would be happy even with Onana for a year.

GK: Raya, GK, Youth GK

LB: Timber, Zinchenko

RB: White, Tomiyasu

LCB: Gabriel, Kiwior

RCB: Saliba, Diomande

DMF:Luiz/Zubimendi/Onana, Partey, Jorginho

LCM: Rice, ESR

RCM: Ødegaard, Vieira

LW: Martinelli, Trossard, Nwaneri

RW: Saka, Jesus

ST: Gyökeres, Havertz

HG: Raya, White, Saliba, Rice, Martinelli, Saka, ESR, Nwaneri, Youth GK

I feel this is how we will look too.

Wouldn't be mad. Although I'd much prefer Luiz / Zubimendi over Onana


I've been feeling for some time Zubimendi is gonna be our CM singing.

Gyokeres is the CF who suits our play style best

And Arteta always has to buy a defender

If I had to put money on it, it'd be those 3

We'll keep pretty much everyone on that list except maybe Partey

 

[WesleyNHohfeld]

I'm starting to think that this might be the most realistic business. This squad would have 25 players when you include Nwaneri.

I also think there is a small possibility that Gyökeres could cover LW, because he is fast and can dribble. And he drifts to the wings for Sporting often, and even top team defenders look like they fear him and don't want to engage.

How do people see the new winger suggestion? How can you fit him to this team? Leave Nwaneri out, and be totally stacked in attack?

Gyökeres, Diomande and Zubimendi would cost like 215 million pounds? Are there more funds to use?

Luiz with two years left and Villa getting UCL might be tough to get, so I'm not holding out much hope for that. Maybe the year after with one year left in contract. The year after you could get Luiz to replace both Jorginho and Partey. In this way I would be happy even with Onana for a year.

GK: Raya, GK, Youth GK

LB: Timber, Zinchenko

RB: White, Tomiyasu

LCB: Gabriel, Kiwior

RCB: Saliba, Diomande

DMF:Luiz/Zubimendi/Onana, Partey, Jorginho

LCM: Rice, ESR

RCM: Ødegaard, Vieira

LW: Martinelli, Trossard, Nwaneri

RW: Saka, Jesus

ST: Gyökeres, Havertz

HG: Raya, White, Saliba, Rice, Martinelli, Saka, ESR, Nwaneri, Youth GK

If we're bringing in Luiz/Zubimendi/Onana, then I think we'd be selling Partey. Maybe Patino or Lokongo could get a look in the squad too. I'm just hesitant on Gyokeres because he's never played against top-level opposition. We can't even see him at the Euros because Sweden didn't qualify. But the striker market is so bad. Can Isak play central striker?

 

[North5]

Do you see Rodygo as a touchline winger, or more of a midfielder?

Whenever I see him in possession for Madrid, he tends to drift inside into the 8/10 role.

He occupies similar spaces as Trosard does.

I like the balance of a direct winger on the left and inside forward on the right .

But the lad is so good I'd be fine with it.

Him , Nelli and Saka would get more than enough minutes each.

I doubt it happens though. I think we go CF (gyokeres)