16 goal contributions is doable for him I think but massively challenging. he is going to get a lot of individual attention from midfielders and defenders. He was a bit of an unknown last season for other teams but this season they will be much more aware of the threat, the better he does the harder it will be for him if that makes sense. Id expect him to do really well early season - maybe a slump while he adjusts to the new challenge and attention and then start delivering at a high rate again.
Right I'm just going to say it, Wilshere definitely had serious talent but I never felt he was gonna be this world beater people are now going on about. His style was pretty limited tbh. He could go past players and play 1-2's for fun but he was never going to be a real dictator of play, he didn't have the physical attributes to be an effective box-to-box midfielder. Also he never really nailed down his best position, started out deep alongside Song, then moved to 10, then tried out on the wings, Hodgson used him as a 6. I think his injuries have helped his reputation tbh. Now all of sudden that Barca game is highlighted and is used constantly to show what he could've become. In reality Barca's midfield dominated that game largely, I know it was a great victory but let's be real here Wilshere did not outplay Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets that's a fantasy, watch the game those three players were in total control. Wilshere had his standout moments absolutely, and was key to most of our transitions, and at such a young age played with incredible maturity. But there's this myth that he almost single handedly dominated that midfield. We can also look to the 2nd leg where he had no impact on the game at all (bar that one chance he almost setup for Bendtner). He was almost non-existent because of how the Barca midfield was absolutely dominating.
I think Saka is honestly a bigger talent than Wilshere was, he just has more tools in his locker. And there's no real questions over his position either. He can play in a number of positions, but you just know in that inside right position what he offers and what he'll bring. Saka's definitely the biggest talent since Fabregas.
Tho this thread is about ESR and he's probably not as talented as Wilshere naturally but he also has a lot of things which Wilshere lacked. His off the ball movement is far superior, his physical attributes are better, he's got a position almost nailed down.
You’d be correct, the forum was crazy gassed.Wilshere was an amazing talent, I refuse to believe this place wasn't gassed about him when he first broke through (didn't know of this forum back in 2010), he was unbelievable...his first season here was out of this world.
I have to say I liked Diaby his tight control really was fantastic, very like Cazorla in his ability to get out of tight spots with quick feet and keep the ball moving forward.Diaby was an average player with a few flashy moves he doesn’t deserve to be mentioned with the others. You guys are obviously suffering from the Diaby effect.
noun: Diaby effect; plural noun: Diaby effects
The phenomenon whereby a decent-ish player out injured for a long period of time increases in ability in the minds of fans until he becomes world class.
For goal/assist contribution, putting ESR in a prime Barcelona, is different to putting him in a Pulis’ Stoke.If he gets 10 assists, irrespective of the number of goals he scores, that's a great season.
Arteta showing he doesn't actually rate him that highly. Probably why he didn't give him a run last season until he'd run out of options, preferring Willian. People saying give Arteta a chance he's still learning. Is he though?
"I prefer players who ask for more than maybe they can take..."
We definitely need a new AM if this is the numbers we're predicting next season.I think he'll be around 5+5 at the end of the season which will be a decent improvement on last year and he'll build on it again the year after.
I think he does.Arteta showing he doesn't actually rate him that highly. Probably why he didn't give him a run last season until he'd run out of options, preferring Willian. People saying give Arteta a chance he's still learning. Is he though?
He certainly ought to rate him, even if the put down was only slight. After all, Emile saved his job.I think he does.
Admitting Emile wanted the number says more about Emile and his balls rather than it being thrust upon him. I look at Arteta's selections more than what he says and since Emile has come in he's not really come out - be it centrally or left wing.
The only thing I've seen Arteta do is temper expectations and bat away the KDB comparisons which is very needed. He does it with all the young players even Saka.
Not that I have, but I have noted some of his long time followers have been slightly taken aback by his unwillingness to try take ons which I found interesting. Probably Arteta instructions as our other dribblers like Pepe have seen a drastic reduction on take on attempts as well.He drifts in and out connecting between the lines. He's fun to watch, but sometimes I feel he can be more bold and selfish on the ball. Is that in his locker? For those who watched him at Youth.