Ethan Nwaneri: Marseille It Ain’t So

[hydrofluoric acid]

Happy for him. Hope the loan will be as good as his first game with them!

 

[Big Nate]

That video shared before misses out on lots of good passes he done. This below is a more accurate reflection of how he played, its every touch (some of his passes were definitely rusty but it was a lower percentage than the other vids showed):

 

[DJ_Markstar]

Was nwondering how he'd settle in. Seems very well so far!

 

[grange]

I feel selfish in that I want him here but if he's getting selected for nearly every league game for OM then that's good for him. He's a baller. Hopefully by the time he's ready, ready, this OOP obsession nonsense is no longer en vogue as he's a bit nonchalant for Arteta's obsessive nature. Arteta may not even be here by the time he's 22/23.

 

[Trilly]

People were mentioning Lennart Karl but I think Ethan’s ball striking is as impressive.

Just really needs to gain momentum and develop in Ligue 1. Karl was kind of fortunate that Musiala was injured and that was his break into the team.

Breaking through at Bayern is the absolute dream scenario for a young player, like training wheels for a bike.

Ethan with the shooting opportunities he’d get at Bayern would be a bit of a joke numbers wise.

 

[TinFish]

Is he giving a double HJ?

Ambidextrous.

 

[CannonBals]

I’m still watching this game even though he was subbed off. Greenwood looks like prime Messi in the Leauge

When he was at ManUtd, I rated Greenwood higher than Saka.
He has always been an elite talent.

 

[viktor]

 

[ragnarock]

Honest question: those of you saying he is playing with high intensity, what are you referring to?

Is it movement speed or frequency of actions or something else?

 

[ash_rasul]

Honest question: those of you saying he is playing with high intensity, what are you referring to?

Is it movement speed or frequency of actions or something else?

Tempo, directness, eagerness to create and make things happen.

 

[TH14shahriar]

Tempo, directness, eagerness to create and make things happen.

For me hes always been the opposite. He's high intensity with the ball but without the ball he's ghosting. He waits for the ball to come to him, but there are things he can work on with his off the ball movement. Let's see how he develops this part of his game.

 

[viktor]

 

[Mrs Bergkamp]

He's had a very good start considering he's had less than a day to train and has barely played. I like his intensity on the ball. OOP, he might have to work harder but it's less demanding if you keep the ball and let it do the work. He looks more CL ready than PL ready given the opposition we face. On another note, I remember Ethan and Zaire-Emery emerging about the same time. The latter has filled out quite a bit physically but less so for Ethan. He'll be able to do more as he matures. This looks like a good loan.

 

[Tnegs]

Really good goal as well. Went straight at the defense, beat his man and perfectly placed his shot beyond the keeper. This is the guy you want on the ball on the final third.

 

[ragnarock]

For me hes always been the opposite. He's high intensity with the ball but without the ball he's ghosting. He waits for the ball to come to him, but there are things he can work on with his off the ball movement. Let's see how he develops this part of his game.

I agree. His individual actions (execution) are often directed towards goal (not very high speed though) but his actions off the ball is quite low speed (often doesn't press with intent and does not often enough make himself a progression option).

In some aspects he's still playing academy football, which of course is normal with the limited exposure to senior football.

Not shooting him down at all. Just interesting that some find him very 'intense' and some don't.

 

[ragnarock]

Tempo, directness, eagerness to create and make things happen.

Okey thanks. Agree with the willingness to go forward but I don’t agree with the tempo. IMO he releases the ball to slowly to drive intensity and he is not very fast.

Intensity as in frequency of involvement has to improve for me. All in due time

 

[ArsenesCoatMaker]

I agree. His individual actions (execution) are often directed towards goal (not very high speed though) but his actions off the ball is quite low speed (often doesn't press with intent and does not often enough make himself a progression option).

In some aspects he's still playing academy football, which of course is normal with the limited exposure to senior football.

Not shooting him down at all. Just interesting that some find him very 'intense' and some don't.

A large part of the problem is his pace, which probably isn't going to get that much better. Although plays men's football and getting 90 min run outs should bring him upto speed in a way that he probably can't in training.

 

[ragnarock]

A large part of the problem is his pace, which probably isn't going to get that much better. Although plays men's football and getting 90 min run outs should bring him upto speed in a way that he probably can't in training.

Pace as in physiological pace is probably not going to improve much at this age no. Knowing Hale End he already has quite the training age when it comes to speed work and derivatives to speed work. Different if he came from a academy our youth setup with less emphasis on physical training.

His playing speed will improve though as you say with first team game exposure but he’s not going to turn into Madueke

 

[ArsenesCoatMaker]

Pace as in physiological pace is probably not going to improve much at this age no. Knowing Hale End he already has quite the training age when it comes to speed work and derivatives to speed work. Different if he came from a academy our youth setup with less emphasis on physical training.

His playing speed will improve though as you say with first team game exposure but he’s not going to turn into Madueke

Which is why his future lies in central areas. Having said that he'd produce far more product than Madueke on the wing, while the latter can stretch defenses in ways Ethan can't hope to.

Ethan already has elite ability to receive the ball on the half turn and either dribble past a player or pick a quick forward pass or shot if he's close to goal.

There's an argument he should of got more gametime there this season as that aspect of his game is above Ødegaard's and Ezes. But his pace and pressing aren't as good. He tries to track back and isn't too bad at it without being the best.

 

[ragnarock]

Which is why his future lies in central areas. Having said that he'd produce far more product than Madueke on the wing, while the latter can stretch defenses in ways Ethan can't hope to.

Ethan already has elite ability to receive the ball on the half turn and either dribble past a player or pick a quick forward pass or shot if he's close to goal.

There's an argument he should of got more gametime there this season as that aspect of his game is above Ødegaard's and Ezes. But his pace and pressing aren't as good. He tries to track back and isn't too bad at it without being the best.

I agree but playing centrally is probably the most demanding position in terms of getting involved and finding good positions both offensively and defensively. He would probably be quite effective wide in a system where he is not expected to roast his fullback on a regular basis.

If this loan turns out well I'd be tempted to send him back out for a full season.