Ethan Nwaneri: New Nwan-era?

[Blankety Blank]

Stick it in the best ever AM posts please @albakos !

This was a gem I will give @jones the kudus.

Have to say Jonesy is very much like comic book guy from the Simpsons.

An awful lot of man child bellendry but he does throw in a real sizzler from time to time

 

[DJ_Markstar]

interesting video first few minutes is about Nwaneri


Gooner phones up TalkSPORT to have a go at Jason Cundy over Nwaneri/Arteta

 

[outlawz]

He is clearly more talented than Wilshere and I loved jack the lad. You have the feeling that Nwaneri can develop into an end product machine. Jack never had that in the first team and you never got the feeling he was going to develop that way. Nwaneri also looks like a smarter player, Jack relied too much on natural ability and didn't really develop his football brain. Nwaneri has the physical edge, a better first touch and looks like a smarter prospect. Nwaneri, MLS and Dowman are the best prospects Arsenal ever produced. Just in terms of raw talent. As much as I rate Saka, he didn't look as talented as any of those three as a teenager.

I don't think it's clear at all. We need a greater sample size which involves him starting PL games before you can really say he's better or worse than Jack or Cesc.

Three players with no PL starts between them are the three best products Arsenal ever produced? You're buying way too much into the absolute best case scenario of potential realisation.

 

[Geofranco]

I don't think it's clear at all. We need a greater sample size which involves him starting PL games before you can really say he's better or worse than Jack or Cesc.

Three players with no PL starts between them are the three best products Arsenal ever produced? You're buying way too much into the absolute best case scenario of potential realisation.

I'm talking about talent and potential, obviously there is a high chance they don't live up to it. I believe Nwaneri is even more technical than Wilshere was with a more robust physique and higher football IQ.

 

[lomekian]

I'm talking about talent and potential, obviously there is a high chance they don't live up to it. I believe Nwaneri is even more technical than Wilshere was with a more robust physique and higher football IQ.

With all 3, the story is yet to be written. Dowman looks amazing for his age, but that doesn't always translate for humdreds of reasons. Anyone remember Cherno Samba or Fredy Adu?

 

[Fabregasm]

With all 3, the story is yet to be written. Dowman looks amazing for his age, but that doesn't always translate for humdreds of reasons. Anyone remember Cherno Samba or Fredy Adu?

If anything Dowman looks more of generational talent than Nwaneri, every of his compilation or highlights at that age of 14 makes you goes wow.

 

[ItaBic]

If anything Dowman looks more of generational talent than Nwaneri, every of his compilation or highlights at that age of 14 makes you goes wow.

very difficult to say, but Ethan impresse me more till now, expecially how easily he adapted to new levels

 

[ArsenesCoatMaker]

With all 3, the story is yet to be written. Dowman looks amazing for his age, but that doesn't always translate for humdreds of reasons. Anyone remember Cherno Samba or Fredy Adu?

There's differences though. Weren't those guys physical beasts in the youth set ups, who's advantage there didn't translate to the men's game?

Although you can have great technical players not reach potential. Ricardo Quaresma was a bigger youth talent than CR7. Ravel Morrison was meant to be better than Pogba in United's youth ranks. Eisfeld was meant to be as talented as Gotze in the youth ranks. I also don't think most people thought Iwobi was the most talented player in our academy at the time but none of the rest made it.

 

[MutableEarth]

I'm talking about talent and potential, obviously there is a high chance they don't live up to it. I believe Nwaneri is even more technical than Wilshere was with a more robust physique and higher football IQ.

This really extends to a fair few players we had come through though. Trae Coyle was extremely promising as a schoolboy - he was even a bit similar in style to Nwaneri. Whenever I see Nwaneri, he reminds me of Coyle but with a bit more intensity on and off the ball. Injuries really did a number on him and he never really hit stride. Tyreece John-Jules is probably one of the most talented Hale End CFs in terms of pure ability and potential but again, injuries.

For all the lyrical waxing we do, seeing how they move in the 1st team is the ultimate litmus test. It's unfortunate when some don't get the opportunity. For Dowman, we're all projecting very far into the future, and even with Nwaneri to an extent. We need to see how the next few years pans out for a few of them.

 

[Tnegs]

With all 3, the story is yet to be written. Dowman looks amazing for his age, but that doesn't always translate for humdreds of reasons. Anyone remember Cherno Samba or Fredy Adu?

The hype around Freddy Adu was insane. He’s easily the most hyped youngster ever I remember reading about him in football magazines from when he was about 14 or younger it was constant hype about how this kid was the next Pele and already good enough to play for a big club. Completely dropped off the map after and never made any real impact on the game.

 

[GoonerJeeves]

This really extends to a fair few players we had come through though. Trae Coyle was extremely promising as a schoolboy - he was even a bit similar in style to Nwaneri. Whenever I see Nwaneri, he reminds me of Coyle but with a bit more intensity on and off the ball. Injuries really did a number on him and he never really hit stride. Tyreece John-Jules is probably one of the most talented Hale End CFs in terms of pure ability and potential but again, injuries.

For all the lyrical waxing we do, seeing how they move in the 1st team is the ultimate litmus test. It's unfortunate when some don't get the opportunity. For Dowman, we're all projecting very far into the future, and even with Nwaneri to an extent. We need to see how the next few years pans out for a few of them.

I'm concerned that the hype could get in the way of the player. It is important that the club protect the player, and let him get on with it.

I know I'm a bit of a killjoy on this.

 

[MutableEarth]

I'm concerned that the hype could get in the way of the player. It is important that the club protect the player, and let him get on with it.

I know I'm a bit of a killjoy on this.

I'm quite optimistic on that front. The club have done a pretty good job all things considering. All we know about him is his talent and nothing else. He's been shielded quite well for a player of his ability and level. Anywhere else and he would have been talked about 10x more than he currently is. He's a freak of a player, there's no way the club could have possibly kept eyes away, but they're keeping it to matches right now.

They did a good job with Ethan Nwaneri too, even after his debut. He went right back to doing what he was doing and the noise became just a little quiet. Their exposure to the first team is just a measure of their talent rather than hype. I'm more worried about things like recurring injuries raring it's head. Outside pressures don't seem to be a huge deal for the recent bigger talents we've produced. Saka a clear example that the younger players are following more.

 

[Geofranco]

If anything Dowman looks more of generational talent than Nwaneri, every of his compilation or highlights at that age of 14 makes you goes wow.

I don't think there is much difference in terms of raw talent and ability between Nwaneri, MLS and Dowman.

 

[North5]

Young Wilshere getting too disrespected on here

 

[Red London]

but he does throw in a real sizzler from time to time

 

[MutableEarth]

Young Wilshere getting too disrespected on here

Naturally gifted in the same vein as Nwaneri for sure. He would have been a way bigger player if not for that initial injury in 2011. Never the same after that.

 

[GDeep™]

Young Wilshere getting too disrespected on here

Jack was a top young player, Cesc though was a generational type talent. Is there a better midfielder in the world right now better than Arsenal Cesc? Nah.

 

[Geofranco]

Young Wilshere getting too disrespected on here

He was talented, but didn't really think the game, he relied too much on natural ability. Bought into the Spanish technique with English heart propaganda, that's part of the reason he was always injured. Finesse players shouldn't try to be hard men.

 

[avenellroad]

He was talented, but didn't really think the game, he relied too much on natural ability. Bought into the Spanish technique with English heart propaganda, that's part of the reason he was always injured. Finesse players shouldn't try to be hard men.

I liked how he played for us in that 2010/2011 season. Was light on his feet and could evade players quite nicely. After the injury however he tried to reinvent himself as a Steven Gerrard type player, putting on way too much muscle for his size. Looked clunky which paired with his running style did him no favours.

 

[RunTheTrap]

Nwaneri needs to base his game on Griezmann.
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