Koln look s**t no wins in league yet 1 goal scored. So I'm expecting very smiliar performance and result against Bournemouth.
Excited to see Nelson and hopefully jack start too.
Excited to see Nelson and hopefully jack start too.
We should really exploit the Europa league as a chance for rotation and rest.
Winning itbreally only means you're 17th best in Europe but I think the emotional capital and reputations you gain from international fans is bigger than its competitive worth. For building our commercial revenues I'm sure to win it would have some value
Winning it means we enter the Champions League doesn't it? I'd say that alone is enough to make it our primary objective outside of the league this year.
Would be insane to play our best 11 with a top 6 match this weekend. I would advocate that Wenger not even go to the game on Thursday and just stay home and run practices for the Chelsea game. Doing well in the Prem >>> doing well in a 2nd tier European competition featuring FC Kovlakistan.
I don't understand and completely disagree with this snobby, elitist attitude.
The EL guarantees entry into the CL, we are the favorites (highest squad cost in the EL!), Wenger does not have a European trophy. It would be foolish to not do everything we can to win the EL.
Ajax, Dortmund, Liverpool and Manchester United all took the EL seriously. All four clubs tried their hardest to win it. What do those four clubs have in common that we don't?
They have all actually won the CL, unlike us. And they still aren't turning their noses up at the EL. Yet Wenger with 0 European trophies to his name should just bin off the competition because some of you think we are too good for it?
Utter lunacy to suggest that. If anything bin off the two useless domestic cups that offer us nothing. I'd much rather start all youth in the two domestic useless Cups.
I'd trade all 3 of our recent FA Cup wins recently for 1 EL win this year.
Seriously no one cares about domestic cups anymore. The EL is more prestigious than any domestic cup.
I don't understand and completely disagree with this snobby, elitist attitude.
The EL guarantees entry into the CL, we are the favorites (highest squad cost in the EL!), Wenger does not have a European trophy. It would be foolish to not do everything we can to win the EL.
Ajax, Dortmund, Liverpool and Manchester United all took the EL seriously. All four clubs tried their hardest to win it. What do those four clubs have in common that we don't?
They have all actually won the CL, unlike us. And they still aren't turning their noses up at the EL. Yet Wenger with 0 European trophies to his name should just bin off the competition because some of you think we are too good for it?
Utter lunacy to suggest that. If anything bin off the two useless domestic cups that offer us nothing. I'd much rather start all youth in the two domestic useless Cups.
I'd trade all 3 of our recent FA Cup wins recently for 1 EL win this year.
Seriously no one cares about domestic cups anymore. The EL is more prestigious than any domestic cup.
So I'm elitist because I dont care about the EL, yet you are not elitist when you don't care about the FA Cup? Are we too good for the FA Cup? Aren't we one of the favorites?
If you rate the EL highly, that's fine. I don't. If you asked me who won the last 5 EL cups, I would be able to name 1. Just don't be a hypocrite and slag other people for not caring about a competition when you are "elitist" about other competitions.
I agree, would much rather win the EL than the FA Cup. We're the laughing stock of europe right now, and winning the EL could partly address that.
However, I think the common view in this forum if you read previous posts is to play our B team in the group stages, while gradually introduce more first XI players as we need to when the games get more difficult. To me this makes much more sense, we can see the effect of having fully rested players on the league. Our B team should be easily capable of winning our group. The teams you mentioned also fielded weaker teams in the earlier stages.
I agree, would much rather win the EL than the FA Cup. We're the laughing stock of europe right now, and winning the EL could partly address that.
However, I think the common view in this forum if you read previous posts is to play our B team in the group stages, while gradually introduce more first XI players as we need to when the games get more difficult. To me this makes much more sense, we can see the effect of having fully rested players on the league. Our B team should be easily capable of winning our group. The teams you mentioned also fielded weaker teams in the earlier stages.
We won 3 of the last 4 FA Cups. What practical benefit did it offer us? Did it allow us to resign our best players? No. Did the 3 out of 4 FA Cups convince our squad player that we were more likely to challenge than Liverpool? No. Did winning 3 FA Cups get us into the CL? No.
The EL offers concrete practical benefits that far outweigh anything 3 FA Cups in 4 years has offered us.
EL offers CL berth. FA Cup does not. One attitude is pragmatic while the other is snobby and naively looks down on a much more valuable competition for our club.
I dunno... I see the poll results, so clearly I'm in the minority here, but I really don't see why (outside of CL qualification) we should be proud of winning this.
Last season, Man U won Europa. I have probably 10+ friends who are Man U fans, and they had a field day with me and my Arsenal friends for not making CL. They never once attempted to rub our faces in the fact that they won Europa last year. My Liverpool fan friends still bring up the fact that they won the CL back in 2005.
No, I'm pretty sure you're the snob that thinks that everyone should care about what you care about. We've made CL many, many years. It is meaningless compared to one league title. If you can't rationalize that people think that winning the league is more important than playing CL, there's nothing to discuss.