Fabio Vieira (Out)

[hydrofluoric acid]

Awful signing.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

If we were to sell ESR and Vieira, then we've a bit of work to do in midfield. Say what you want but they're too fairly unique profiles in our squad outwith the starting Ødegaard. ESR with his ball carrying ability, Vieira with his final pass unless you go out and sign a player who's the perfect blend of what ESR/Vieira offer then we arguably need to sign an extra midfielder on top of the one we should be signing in any case. I've not seen a profile we've been properly linked with who'd fulfill what would be lost, or even what the squad is lacking already.

 

[Rasmi]

Ramsdale will be a big loss I suspect too along with Vieira. Those first 18 months or what ever where we were trying to get through EL were particularly ropey on the transfer front. It's a bit better more recently in terms of signings he actually uses.

The weirdest thing with Arteta is he doesn’t like rotating much. So actually promoting some academy players and give them the small amount of minutes he gives 10-15 million signings would be better. We really need to make less signings

 

[Batman]

Starting to stack up Arteta signings that lost all value

Edit: tbh Lokonga, Tavares, Marquinhos, Runarsson didn't cost much to be fair but it's still all lost £££

All top teams have signings that don't work out and lose value. That's the cost of taking risks in the market. City have duds like this, United and Chelsea have multiple per season. It happens.

 

[Jasard]

If we were to sell ESR and Vieira, then we've a bit of work to do in midfield. Say what you want but they're too fairly unique profiles in our squad outwith the starting Ødegaard. ESR with his ball carrying ability, Vieira with his final pass unless you go out and sign a player who's the perfect blend of what ESR/Vieira offer then we arguably need to sign an extra midfielder on top of the one we should be signing in any case. I've not seen a profile we've been properly linked with who'd fulfill what would be lost, or even what the squad is lacking already.

Sure makes sense but keep in mind if they didn't exist last season nothing would have changed

 

[Tir Na Nog]

Sure makes sense but keep in mind if they didn't exist last season nothing would have changed

Vieira did have a promising start to the season. You could also say we got lucky with Rice and Ødegaard both playing virtually every league game (IIRC). One of them goes down and we'd have been in deep trouble assuming Vieira/ESR wouldn't have made the desired impact. So even if we went and signed a Bruno, it doesn't address the issue in terms of a creative alternative to Ødegaard. And I think a player of ESR's skillset is vital to have in the squad anyways. I don't think we should be resting on our laurels because of last season.

 

[Rasmi]

If we were to sell ESR and Vieira, then we've a bit of work to do in midfield. Say what you want but they're too fairly unique profiles in our squad outwith the starting Ødegaard. ESR with his ball carrying ability, Vieira with his final pass unless you go out and sign a player who's the perfect blend of what ESR/Vieira offer then we arguably need to sign an extra midfielder on top of the one we should be signing in any case. I've not seen a profile we've been properly linked with who'd fulfill what would be lost, or even what the squad is lacking already.

Nwaneri will get ful promotion and actually get significant minutes

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

If we were to sell ESR and Vieira, then we've a bit of work to do in midfield. Say what you want but they're too fairly unique profiles in our squad outwith the starting Ødegaard. ESR with his ball carrying ability, Vieira with his final pass unless you go out and sign a player who's the perfect blend of what ESR/Vieira offer then we arguably need to sign an extra midfielder on top of the one we should be signing in any case. I've not seen a profile we've been properly linked with who'd fulfill what would be lost, or even what the squad is lacking already.

Vieira final ball. Ok I need the video please!

 

[2Smokeyy]

I would keep Fabio Vieira but it’s more knowing he has a bit of talent and hoping he can turn things around/get opportunities.

There are only so many players you can get rid of in one window but Partey, ESR, Nketiah, Reiss, Lokonga, Zinchenko, Tavares, Tierney, Ramsdale and possibly even Jesus would all be ahead of him in terms of those departing. A bit unrealistic to bin all of the above in one window.

 

[Riou]

Need to get the great Vieira name back to having the respect it deserves, so Fabio...

 

[TakeChillPill]

Vieria is clearly talented, however he is also light weight and importantly lacks the balance and agility to bounce off players like all the great smallera players are able to do.

 

[SA Gunner]

Vieira is great at getting the ball to our last line, he has a good sense of timing of attacker runs and can move the ball in time to keep them onside.

The problem, like with Zinchenko is the physical demands that Arteta puts on his players, particularly his advanced midfielders. This is why him and Oleks are likely not to stay on.

Its also why I can see the likes of Joao Neves and Bruno getting that look in as our technical, carrying 8 profile.

Lets hope we get a good fee for him though.

 

[Menard]

If we can get any sort of decent fee for him just get rid. He has some talent but he plays like a scared little kid on the pitch. I'm not really disappointed in his physicality or struggle in transitions when he plays, as you kind of accept that with a tiny technical playmaker who hasn't gotten lots of game time in England, I am always disappointed though in how timid he is on the ball. If you're gonna be useless off the ball you need to be a real difference maker on it, but he has too much Nelson-itis in him where he just looks happy to not lose the ball most of the time. It's a tough one because obviously that confidence to take risks comes with consistent playing time and having the backing of the manager, but he also has never actually looked like an elite of enough talent to make me think it'd be worth playing him into form at the expense of others.

 

[El Duderino]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1799845310057034153

Alexa, please show me a picture of "loaned untill his contract runs out".

 

[Tourbillion]

If we can get any sort of decent fee for him just get rid. He has some talent but he plays like a scared little kid on the pitch. I'm not really disappointed in his physicality or struggle in transitions when he plays, as you kind of accept that with a tiny technical playmaker who hasn't gotten lots of game time in England, I am always disappointed though in how timid he is on the ball. If you're gonna be useless off the ball you need to be a real difference maker on it, but he has too much Nelson-itis in him where he just looks happy to not lose the ball most of the time. It's a tough one because obviously that confidence to take risks comes with consistent playing time and having the backing of the manager, but he also has never actually looked like an elite of enough talent to make me think it'd be worth playing him into form at the expense of others.

I've been scarred since that one sub appearance in his first season in which LITERALLY every first touch and pass went awry. Shocking performance and since then I was firmly like, nah.

 

[Tourbillion]

Vieira did have a promising start to the season. You could also say we got lucky with Rice and Ødegaard both playing virtually every league game (IIRC). One of them goes down and we'd have been in deep trouble assuming Vieira/ESR wouldn't have made the desired impact. So even if we went and signed a Bruno, it doesn't address the issue in terms of a creative alternative to Ødegaard. And I think a player of ESR's skillset is vital to have in the squad anyways. I don't think we should be resting on our laurels because of last season.

Even Ødegaard struggles versus Europe's elite. I really don't think we're close to having a perfect set of midfielders yet.

 

[ArsenesCoatMaker]

This signing reeks of mismanagement. Buy a player who's played about half a season of football. Who's own fans says he lack concentration. And then barely play him for 2 seasons. If you're not going to give youngsters playing time you shouldn't be buying them. It makes me somewhat dubious about going for the likes of Sesko too, if he's just going to rot on the bench

 

[lomekian]

This signing reeks of mismanagement. Buy a player who's played about half a season of football. Who's own fans says he lack concentration. And then barely play him for 2 seasons. If you're not going to give youngsters playing time you shouldn't be buying them. It makes me somewhat dubious about going for the likes of Sesko too, if he's just going to rot on the bench

Fundamental difference is that our squad is shaped in a way to make minutes easier to come buy for Sesko as both current CF options (assuming we sell eddie) can and will play in other roles. Vieira was back up to our two most important attacking players who basically never got injured and then managed to get injured, banned and then injured again at the time when he was actually needed for minutes.

 

[CannonBals]

The weirdest thing with Arteta is he doesn’t like rotating much. So actually promoting some academy players and give them the small amount of minutes he gives 10-15 million signings would be better. We really need to make less signings

Exactly, we currently have a core of 12 outfield player which we should rely on and wouldn't sell

Timber/White/Saliba/Gabriel/Tomi
Jorginho/Rice/Ødegaard
Saka/Havertz/Trossard/Martinelli

We need 5-6 more which would include
Kiwior/Zinni/Partey/ESR/Viera/Jesus

Adding them its already 18 and we should then promote 2-3 adademy guys like Ethan/MLS.
So as such we are already in the one in one out phase.

Elnenny/Cedric/Nelson/Nketieh/Tierney/Lokonge/Taveres etc are pure surplus.

Moving on we should only sign u19 high potential guys for academy or 23y-26y ready made first team guys who can be part of core. Even Mancity does the same as we dont have luxury to provide first team football any more. Currently we cannot even take a punt on someone like White/Ødegaard we did 3 yr ago. We are in a different phase now.

 

[jaystewart]

Not sure you can have development players getting minutes if you want to win the league vs city. We couldn't win it running our best players into the ground.