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Fabio Vieira: The Portuguese Project

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Dunno he seems to use certain players for a while and he persisted with Vieira a lot and then sometimes just freezes them out. Similar to Eddie who he played so much even when he wasn't performing then all of a sudden doesn't trust him at all. Think it's a different case here as we've got more options at CF than in midfield especially when it comes to creative midfielders.

For Vieira specifically probably just sees him as too erratic and doesn't do enough of the things he likes off the ball justify persisting with him because of what he could potentially do off the ball. The reason he persisted with someone like Havertz is because of his off the ball stuff and duel winning ability which Arteta values really highly above all else. I think in general Arteta doesn't want to change the dynamics of the team too much. Currently the model is set with Rice-Jorginho and Ødegaard more advanced with Saka right, Havertz usually CF and Lw currently a toss up between Martinelli, Jesus and Trossard. Then he's got the immediate backup option of Rice lone 6 with Zinchenko coming back into the side at LB so he can invert and then Havertz back into midfield at left 8. Vieira doesn't really fit into these two setups unless it's a straight swap for Ødegaard and there's a serious drop off with so many things.

In the first setup to play left 8 he'd have to replace Rice's role and obvious there's a huge difference there and it's just not viable in Arteta's eyes. The 2nd setup he'd replace Havertz but Havertz has this weird specific role which Vieira wouldn't fill like for like anyways.

This is a long winded way of basically saying there's no specific place for Vieira and Arteta doesn't like changing the dynamics of his setups too much which would come with playing Vieira. Last season although Xhaka offered different things it was more of a straight swap.

I would like to see him start in a first 11 environment. Generally his starts have come with the second string in cups. He came on for a cameo a month or so ago and looked lively, and then we've not seen him since, other than the 1 minute vs Brighton.

I feel we should have used him more to give Ødegaard a rest, especially when leading by 2 goals. This will be almost 2 seasons with him now, surely you have to throw him in at some point, adaptation period is over. I think he's had some lively cameos off the bench, i want to see more, especially if we play with Tomi or Kiwior LB.
 

Batman

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Player:Saliba
Looked quite lively when he came on, almost scored and made some good passes. Hopefully he can contribute more next season. It would be nice if Ødegaard would maybe share his inhalers with him.
 

Yousif Arsenal

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I don't like him as RW but if this the only position that available for him then Arteta has to give him chance specially if we again don't buy RW.
 

boonthegoon

Arteta In by November

Country: USA

Player:Ødegaard
Looked good but then it was against an already beaten Chelsea. But even then Jesus & Nelli didn't do well but Fabio did. So credit to him.
 

Gooner Zig

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I still believe in this guy, he's got the talent to make it here. I can't unsee that cameo performance vs Fulham at home and his performance at left #8 vs Everton away.
 

jaystewart

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I feel like when Arteta is done with a player, it is clear and I like that ruthlessness. But these guys (ESR, FV, Eddie) get no time on the pitch whatsoever so when they come on, they're completely completely off the pace. Arteta has given them their chance to be a starter but its bad for us when we need magic off the bench and it must be awful for the player too.

I am 100% confident ESR, FV and Eddie are finished. Reece has his role.
 

Rasmi

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I feel like when Arteta is done with a player, it is clear and I like that ruthlessness. But these guys (ESR, FV, Eddie) get no time on the pitch whatsoever so when they come on, they're completely completely off the pace. Arteta has given them their chance to be a starter but its bad for us when we need magic off the bench and it must be awful for the player too.

I am 100% confident ESR, FV and Eddie are finished. Reece has his role.
Yes, but as we know it so does every other club. So that players value will hit rock bottom. Arteta is very good at making a players position at the club untenable and any club coming for him will know he has no future at Arsenal
 

BenTal

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Country: USA

Player:Ødegaard
I think they will give him one more chance this year. Eddie will be gone; no way we would keep him. ESR as well. But I suspect we can only loan them. No one's gonna buy them
 

GDeep™

League is very weak
“The Portuguese Project” - what project? Arteta has signed this young player and not developed him at all.
 

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