I think what they say is true to them, but not to us. They (Freddie, Thierry, Gallas) are all towards the end of their careers, and by extension want to win trophies- whats wrong with that? They don't want to wait for the team to mature because then they would be too old. We (fans) on the other hand can see the potential and in general have more patientence with the team. I don't think anything untoward is going on at the gunners, just transition.