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He can’t be the defender of the year. That will go to Botman
Nonsense as per usual from the hipster Rasmi
He can’t be the defender of the year. That will go to Botman
24-25 he has developed to the league and adapted to his new partners (Saliba and Zinchenko).Such an overlooked player. Genuinely world class, especially since the World Cup
Hes becoming an embarrassment to the forum. The fact that he tries to say he's Swedish because he's ashamed of his own nationality says it all.Nonsense as per usual from the hipster Rasmi
Or I’m not deluded fan who scream world class after few good months. You have a defence that conceded 8 goals less than us. But somehow our 2 CBs have been the best CBs? I can go back to august/September in this thread where everyone was slagging him off being error prone. He is in great form have been very good since the World Cup speciallyHes becoming an embarrassment to the forum. The fact that he tries to say he's Swedish because he's ashamed of his own nationality says it all.
I say Gabriel is and has been better than Botman. I'll give you something to look at. Then come back to me with a logical argument to say different. First is one defenders team is 25 points ahead of the other. The rest.....enjoyOr I’m not deluded fan who scream world class after few good months. You have a defence that conceded 8 goals less than us. But somehow our 2 CBs have been the best CBs? I can go back to august/September in this thread where everyone was slagging him off being error prone. He is in great form have been very good since the World Cup specially
What do you not understand about a team playing farmer ball? If you get 9 or 10 guys dropping deep all the time it is easy to look good for a slightly better than mid table team. How has that team played in the last couple of months? I guarantee you if he was asked to play with one holding midfielder, inverted fullback, high line, and build from back his team wouldn’t give up 17 goals.Or I’m not deluded fan who scream world class after few good months. You have a defence that conceded 8 goals less than us. But somehow our 2 CBs have been the best CBs? I can go back to august/September in this thread where everyone was slagging him off being error prone. He is in great form have been very good since the World Cup specially
I say Gabriel is and has been better than Botman. I'll give you something to look at. Then come back to me with a logical argument to say different. First is one defenders team is 25 points ahead of the other. The rest.....enjoy![]()
To be honest I rate Botman and I think he would go alongside Gabriel in a team of the season. I've watched a fair bit of Newcastle and he's been impressive.Game set and match this Bottom guy is a plumber or farmer compared to Gabriel. Honestly, you just can’t give the award to a dude who finishes 5 or 6th and wins nothing. It would be like giving Shawcross defender of the Year because Stoke finished 10th or something
I am not saying he is a crap defender it is just easy to look good on a team that is built to defend. Botman would not start for Arsenal. I wouldn’t take him for Big Willy either. Botman could be great, but i want to see how he defends on an island like Gabriel and Saliba do. With our system one of the tactical drawbacks is there is acres of space wide to counter us if we get turned over. Do you know how often our CBs are forced to defend tricky wingers with a head of steam 30-35 yards away from goal? Happens a ton and we rarely pay for it. Most CBs pulled out that wide with a tricky winger are toast or are racking up redcards.To be honest I rate Botman and I think he would go alongside Gabriel in a team of the season. I've watched a fair bit of Newcastle and he's been impressive.
But he isn't ahead of Gabriel. The eye test doesn't say he is. The league table doesn't say he is and the stats don't.
Now we know @Rasmi likes to hate on his on players. But he cannot come up with a logical argument based on everything why Botman is better.
When he finishes in the takeaway tonight he will search some site to paint Botman out to be better but we all know Gabriel takes the title.
He can’t be the defender of the year. That will go to Botman
Agreed. No CB in the league is under more pressure by design than Saliba and Gabriel are. That they stand up to it so magnificently is a testament to the sheer brilliance of them individually and as partners.I am not saying he is a crap defender it is just easy to look good on a team that is built to defend. Botman would not start for Arsenal. I wouldn’t take him for Big Willy either. Botman could be great, but i want to see how he defends on an island like Gabriel and Saliba do. With our system one of the tactical drawbacks is there is acres of space wide to counter us if we get turned over. Do you know how often our CBs are forced to defend tricky wingers with a head of steam 30-35 yards away from goal? Happens a ton and we rarely pay for it. Most CBs pulled out that wide with a tricky winger are toast or are racking up redcards.
Botman is also backed up by a better less flashy goalkeeper as well. Partey and Gabriel are the two rocks that Artetaball is based on. If those two aren’t playing good to great we would be nowhere near top of table. Arteta trusts both so much he can play this way. Up till this year people forget how turgid and agricultural our attack was last two seasons.Agreed. No CB in the league is under more pressure by design than Saliba and Gabriel are. That they stand up to it so magnificently is a testament to the sheer brilliance of them individually and as partners.
Rasmi has been captured and exterminated by the Daleks. So there'll be no more from him.
Here is the thing with player of the season or being part of player of the season. You don’t have to be a better player to get ahead of a player. Gabriel early on the season was poor. Games like Fulham and Liverpool away he was getting slagged of in here.To be honest I rate Botman and I think he would go alongside Gabriel in a team of the season. I've watched a fair bit of Newcastle and he's been impressive.
But he isn't ahead of Gabriel. The eye test doesn't say he is. The league table doesn't say he is and the stats don't.
Now we know @Rasmi likes to hate on his on players. But he cannot come up with a logical argument based on everything why Botman is better.
When he finishes in the takeaway tonight he will search some site to paint Botman out to be better but we all know Gabriel takes the title.
Yeah slagged off by people who don’t understand he was getting used to a new high risk partner and high risk system and don’t understand tactics. Gabriel’s numbers are better than Botman and his team is collapsing. Yeah give it to him, you might as well give the award to Shawcross he was highly rated for awhile toHere is the thing with player of the season or being part of player of the season. You don’t have to be a better player to get ahead of a player. Gabriel early on the season was poor. Games like Fulham and Liverpool away he was getting slagged of in here.
Gabriel has been better. Go check the stats pal. Don't avoid that. Break it down why Botman has been better and show why.Here is the thing with player of the season or being part of player of the season. You don’t have to be a better player to get ahead of a player. Gabriel early on the season was poor. Games like Fulham and Liverpool away he was getting slagged of in here.
Here is the thing with player of the season or being part of player of the season. You don’t have to be a better player to get ahead of a player. Gabriel early on the season was poor. Games like Fulham and Liverpool away he was getting slagged of in here.