Gabriel Magalhães (Out)

[Batman]

Why is it always ''up to the player'' when it comes to us selling players but if someone like Isak wants to play for us it's up to Newcastle.
Gabriel is on a contract, he can't just leave.

Can only hope that this Berta guy is better at dealing with sales than previous leadership. Feels like we were always bad at it and always dealing with it from a weak position. For a long time that is, back to the snake days of Van Persie and Fabregas as well, being held hostage by players when really it should be the other way around.

I'm glad you asked. Isak's contract expires in 2028. Gabriel's expires in 2027. It's pretty well established that you do not want a player getting into the last year of a contract without an extension as they can just run their contract down and leave on a free. Gabriel is 1 year closer to that than Isak.

There's also the little wrinkle of this not being the first time Gabriel has been approached by a Saudi club and apparently tempted, not to mention that there is no danger of Isak being approached by a Saudi club because he's already at a Saudi owned club. There is no club that's going to pay Isak Saudi wages because none of them will be allowed to approach him.

If a Saudi club chooses to offer Gabriel stupid wages that we can't or won't match, it may turn his head and while he "can't just leave", he can definitely decide to run his contract down. We have a year basically to sell him or agree a contract extension. Newcastle have 2 years and no danger of Saudi competition. Of course, Isak could try to push his way out but he has less leverage to do so than what Gabriel will have. I hope you can see the difference now.

 

[Kuroske]

There is a reason why Saudi clubs does not have to pay huge transfer fees in order to get their players because they can offer generational money to tempt those players. If a Saudi club offer like 20-30m TAX-FREE per year to Gabriel, he would be stupid to turn it down to play for 6m pre taxed.

You will not want a demotivated player in your squad. He will not be the beast you know when he constantly thinking Arsenal screwed him to get his biggest once in a life time pay check. Especially for players who grew up in poverty.

And do not expect Saudi clubs to pay insane money to Arsenal. They try to get into the heads of players with mind games in order to have the players force a move and only have to pay market conform transfer fee.

 

[Roz]

There is a reason why Saudi clubs does not have to pay huge transfer fees in order to get their players because they can offer generational money to tempt those players. If a Saudi club offer like 20-30m TAX-FREE per year to Gabriel, he would be stupid to turn it down to play for 6m pre taxed.

You will not want a demotivated player in your squad. He will not be the beast you know when he constantly thinking Arsenal screwed him to get his biggest once in a life time pay check. Especially for players who grew up in poverty.

And do not expect Saudi clubs to pay insane money to Arsenal. They try to get into the heads of players with mind games in order to have the players force a move and only have to pay market conform transfer fee.

Gabriel doesn’t strike me as the sort of player to down tools.

It’s worth the risk keeping him and Saliba together anyways, one of my the best CB partnerships in football that could have potentially another 4 seasons playing at that level? You don’t break that up.

 

[goonerfamily]

Situations like this are why it was so important to win big this season or last season. That's why last summer was so disappointing. Lots of big players are at 2 years now where it's time to extend or sell. It's going to be hard to convince Saliba, Gabriel, Saka to stay when they have nothing to show for their efforts. Will never not be furious about the 2024 summer window.

 

[ArsenesCoatMaker]

There is a reason why Saudi clubs does not have to pay huge transfer fees in order to get their players because they can offer generational money to tempt those players. If a Saudi club offer like 20-30m TAX-FREE per year to Gabriel, he would be stupid to turn it down to play for 6m pre taxed.

You will not want a demotivated player in your squad. He will not be the beast you know when he constantly thinking Arsenal screwed him to get his biggest once in a life time pay check. Especially for players who grew up in poverty.

And do not expect Saudi clubs to pay insane money to Arsenal. They try to get into the heads of players with mind games in order to have the players force a move and only have to pay market conform transfer fee.

Loads of clubs do this and the player doesn't down tools. Look at Kane and Son. Years back Vieira wanted out a fair few summers before he left

You only think about selling Gabriel if it's transfer window changing money. I'd rather lose him on a free in 2 seasons time than let him go for less than £100m

 

[Clrnc]

There is a reason why Saudi clubs does not have to pay huge transfer fees in order to get their players because they can offer generational money to tempt those players. If a Saudi club offer like 20-30m TAX-FREE per year to Gabriel, he would be stupid to turn it down to play for 6m pre taxed.

You will not want a demotivated player in your squad. He will not be the beast you know when he constantly thinking Arsenal screwed him to get his biggest once in a life time pay check. Especially for players who grew up in poverty.

And do not expect Saudi clubs to pay insane money to Arsenal. They try to get into the heads of players with mind games in order to have the players force a move and only have to pay market conform transfer fee.

Saudi pays huge transfer fees.

 

[A_G]

There is a reason why Saudi clubs does not have to pay huge transfer fees in order to get their players

They paid 77m for Duran and 60m for Moussa Diaby. Even 46m for a washed Fabinho was a lot.

 

[Batman]

Saudi pays huge transfer fees.

True but he's correct about the wages. The salary discrepancies are enormous, particularly considering UK tax rates.

 

[sdotzdot]

You don't sell Gabriel, no matter what. He's one of the best CBs in the world in the best CB pairing in the world and is the spine to our team and a huge leader in the back.

You don't remove such a pivotal figure when you're in the midst of preparing to build on that to win trophies, that's how the collapse happens. This would look awful.

No chance we agree to this unless Gabriel really pushes for it.

 

[Clrnc]

True but he's correct about the wages. The salary discrepancies are enormous, particularly considering UK tax rates.

If Saudi turns his head as it is easy to do so by offering huge wages to players who came from very poor background and the wages can change his entire life, then offer us 120m you have to say Berta will definitely sell him. The money can go a long way strengthening the team.

 

[HollandGooner]

Gabriel is the best left centre back in the world there should be no debate. give him the contract.

 

[2 White Thighs]

nah not happening. typical contract negotiating shenanigans. move on.

 

[Wounded Healer]

Should be captain.

 

[OSBK]

IMO he is the best lcb in world football. I rate him higher than saliba and i rate saliba extremely high.

 

[Diesel]

Should be given a massive deal to stay. More important and more of a captain than Ødegaard. Not really even up for debate

 

[outlawz]

You don't sell Gabriel, no matter what. He's one of the best CBs in the world in the best CB pairing in the world and is the spine to our team and a huge leader in the back.

You don't remove such a pivotal figure when you're in the midst of preparing to build on that to win trophies, that's how the collapse happens. This would look awful.

No chance we agree to this unless Gabriel really pushes for it.

At the beginning of the tour of east Asia Wenger appeared to put reputations on the line when he declared Arsenal could not be considered a "big club" if they sold Nasri and Fábregas this summer – "because a big club holds on to its big players and gives a message to all the other big clubs that they cannot come in and take them away from you," he said.

 

[outlawz]

The money can go a long way strengthening the team.

How? Finding world class CB's is not easy and who is currently out there that we could replace him with?

We invested 2-3 years into Gabriel to become the monster he is today, and people are readily going to give that up for money? Selling clubs who make millions from selling their stars never become great clubs because you need to keep your best players to become great. You can't complain about us not winning trophies when you are fine about us parting with our best players.

Liverpool rejected 150m for Salah for last season. There's no-one they could have signed that was going to give them what Salah has this season. Great players are worth more than the money teams are willing to pay for them, because they understand that signing great players is more than having money, it's also about desire and opportunity. That can be an even bigger issue to solve for. Would you sell Saka for 200m? Remember how much better Barcelona turned out when they lost Neymar for that figure? I don't.

 

[Dutch D]

If Saudi turns his head as it is easy to do so by offering huge wages to players who came from very poor background and the wages can change his entire life, then offer us 120m you have to say Berta will definitely sell him. The money can go a long way strengthening the team.

I never really understand this argument from the fan's side. Why so much respect for the (potential) greediness of a player?

Gabriel makes 100k a week reportedly. He earns a week what most people make in about 2 years. He could (and should) make double that at our club. Meaning he earns what most people earn in 4 years in 1 week.

I have about 40 years of labour in total before retirement. So without going into complications with pay rises and inflation he could make what you and I make in 40 years in 10 weeks.

How 'stupid Saudi money' is necessary for anyone is beyond me. Let alone the destructive impact of such high wages on the planet and the psychological toll on the individual.

 

[Clrnc]

I never really understand this argument from the fan's side. Why so much respect for the (potential) greediness of a player?

Gabriel makes 100k a week reportedly. He earns a week what most people make in about 2 years. He could (and should) make double that at our club. Meaning he earns what most people earn in 4 years in 1 week.

I have about 40 years of labour in total before retirement. So without going into complications with pay rises and inflation he could make what you and I make in 40 years in 10 weeks.

How 'stupid Saudi money' is necessary for anyone is beyond me. Let alone the destructive impact of such high wages on the planet and the psychological toll on the individual.

100k to a player is probably around 10k to normal office workers. Above median in football but just about par for any good players.

So if you have the opportunity to earn 30-40k as an office man, why not?

 

[Batman]

I never really understand this argument from the fan's side. Why so much respect for the (potential) greediness of a player?

Gabriel makes 100k a week reportedly. He earns a week what most people make in about 2 years. He could (and should) make double that at our club. Meaning he earns what most people earn in 4 years in 1 week.

I have about 40 years of labour in total before retirement. So without going into complications with pay rises and inflation he could make what you and I make in 40 years in 10 weeks.

How 'stupid Saudi money' is necessary for anyone is beyond me. Let alone the destructive impact of such high wages on the planet and the psychological toll on the individual.

You realize that this post is the equivalent of someone in a third world country questioning why you would need a substantial pay rise because your salary is disproportionate to theirs, right? I'm quite sure you'd think that was ridiculous.

It doesn't really matter "what most people make". That's not his responsibility and should not be a consideration when he's making financial decisions that impact his family. He's a human being with free will, not a slave who needs to turn down massive sums of money because you don't get paid that much. Go and do something that the Saudis will pay you handsomely for and then you won't need to moan like this.

Better still, actually ask yourself the right question, which is not why a millionaire would like to earn more money but why billionaires choose to fund bread and circuses rather than things that benefit a broader segment of society. I never really understand how people are quick to call millionaires greedy but not the billionaires profiting off of both the millionaires and the rest of us.