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Discussion in 'Football Talk' started by Juan Matas Beard, Oct 12, 2015.

  1. Juan Matas Beard

    Juan Matas Beard Friendly Mancunian facial hair

    Was a piss easy group but 10/10 is quite an achievement.

    Can't exactly say it's one of our most formidable national teams as well with quite a few "average" players in the team.

    Think Roy's done a solid job and hasn't had much attention in the media (which isn't exactly a bad thing) as expectations are pretty low.

    I'd say the only thing that annoys me about him are his annoying selection choices; Townsend, Vardy, Walker and Gibbs seem to have a free pass in the team. Would have liked players like Dier, Puncheon, Zaha and Cresswell given a chance.

    Share your thoughts.
     
  2. RandyMarsh

    RandyMarsh Well-Known Member

    Well we couldn't have asked for an easier group really. Still, 10/10 looks nice. I think we've got a talented bunch of first team players but the manager isn't good enough. We're solid, like you said, that's about it. No hope in hell of winning the Euros but i'd at least want to see us get out the group, or maybe win a game? Quarter final should be our realistic target next summer. A semi final would be a great achievement.

    Just counting down the days until we get a replacement for Woy weally. Guess we'll gather a lot more info about where we stand with the friendlies coming up. No more playing dross opposition. Some real football teams to play now.

    Agree the with the call ups. Townsend is the biggest joke of them all. We're missing quite a few players through injury though i suppose, but if you're going to give a game to fringe players then at least give it to someone who deserves it.

    All in all, not much to get too excited about for the Euros next summer.

    Would be interesting to see what other people think our starting team should be for next summer. I'd go with this:

    .......................Hart
    Clyne.....Smalling....Stones.....Shaw
    ................Henderson
    ........Wilshere........Lallana
    ................Sterling
    ........Sturridge.....Kane

    But wouldn't mind Walcott in for Kane. Just think that front 2 is a bit more balanced.
     
  3. Mitch

    Mitch Blocked by Ramsey on Instagram

    Easy group, not a real indicator in regards to seeing how we would fair against big teams but nice to win all the matches.

    I am annoyed with Roy's selections. I would like Roy to dump his "old guard" aka the out of form experience players which has been our major downfall in the past several tournaments. Dump Rooney, Cahill, Carrick and Jags and bring in younger players in better form.

    Townsend (serioulsy...how)??? - Redmond
    Rooney - Sturridge
    Gibbs - Cresswell
    Walker - Jenkinson
    Carrick - Dier
    Jags - Dann
    Cahill - Richards

    Vardy is no spring chicken and isn't a big name but he has earned his call up on current form.
     
  4. Dennis_Bergkamp_10

    Dennis_Bergkamp_10 Well-Known Member

    Your first team looks quite good when everyone's fit. Can't see that happening though (Wilshere for instance, who's one of your best in that midfield), and I also can't see Rooney getting dropped. Which is bad news, as the likes of Sturridge and Walcott are so much more threatening.
     
  5. Furious

    Furious Elneny on, telly off

    Choping off Vardy's d*** and renaming him Reek would be good a start.
     
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  6. Juan Matas Beard

    Juan Matas Beard Friendly Mancunian facial hair

    Fecking hell :lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
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  7. Mitch

    Mitch Blocked by Ramsey on Instagram

    Lallana needs to start for England, he's impressive in every match for England (he should be one of first names on the team sheet after Wilshere and Hart).
     
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  8. Bould14

    Bould14 Well-Known Member

    England has a chance at Semi-finals at the Euros. Just drop Rooney to second half player.
     
  9. Gooner Zig

    Gooner Zig AM's Resident Accountant

    Barkley at #10? Not good enough there IMO.
     
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  10. redanddread

    redanddread Always negative

    He seems like a headless chicken to me but he does provide a certain amount of energy and legs in midfield.

    I'd play Dier over Carrick in @Juan Matas Beard team, otherwise that's a good line-up. I like Delph also but he's been injured so can't really say.
     
  11. Rain Dance

    Rain Dance Well-Known Member Trusted

    Hart .... is there no better keeper than Hart for England?
     
  12. SuperGoon

    SuperGoon Debbie Downer

    Forster.
     
  13. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    Hodgson is the best manager England has in decades, leading the England squad with the weakest group of players in decades. The way some of you guys talk, it seems as if you think the England players is are good as the German ones and England should be trashing every team 5-0 in every match. Bah Bah Bah England has an easy group, so what Spain has an easy group too and they didn't go 10-0. Yeah so Townsend is ass, but who should be called up ahead of him? Zaha? Think a lot of you guys are going to miss Roy Hodgson when he goes.
     
  14. HollandGooner

    HollandGooner Well-Known Member

    TBF, this is a great achievement you can only give the english team a big compliment.

    If you look at the group ofcourse it was an easy group, but please look at the Netherlands they are currently standing 4th in a so called easy group...
     
  15. Rain Dance

    Rain Dance Well-Known Member Trusted

    you guys are old enough to understand the pattern of Englishmen toward their managers, bet if some other more popular manager got this achievement, the wanking would be spectacular
     
  16. clockwork orange

    clockwork orange Blind faith in "LVG filoshophy" Elite

    For me the key question is which 3 midfielders to play. Lots of options. Hard to judge. The other question is which striker to play, I'ld go with who's in shape. I'ld go for:

    Hart
    Clyne Smalling Stones Shaw
    Henderson Wilshere
    Rooney
    Walcott St'ge/Kane Sterling
     
  17. BobP

    BobP Favre Fan

    Before setting out a team, we must ask ourselves what are the limitations and strengths of the English team.

    Limitations: Absolutely devoid of midfield quality outside of Wilshere, most of the others are purely physical specimen.

    Strengths: Defensively, England shape up alright, Stones is phenomenal, Smalling has been doing well, Clyne is a solid option and Shaw owns the left hand side.

    Offensively, England have both speed and are clinical to an extent.

    Hart
    Clyne-Stones-Smalling-Shaw
    Henderson-Wilshere-Milner or Delph

    Frontline can be three out of: Sturridge, Kane, Welbeck, Theo, Ox, Sterling.

    Good defense.
    Liberation of Wilshere.
    Clinical, quick and hard working frontline.

    Hodgson should be able to figure this stuff out, no better manager than him when it comes to playing on the back foot.
     
  18. Rosso

    Rosso AM's Resident United Fan

    Hodgson has to do well next summer. The last Euro's were a free shot for him and the World Cup was over in a flash. This will be his 3rd tournament, not many managers get that luxury without being judged.
     
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  19. Drebin

    Drebin Well-Known Member

    I only saw 1 or 2 games from your team but I when watching the match against Estonia I had the feeling that your players are a little bit too selfish. Walcott, Kane, Barkley, Sterling - every one of them wanted to be the one who scores the goal. Instead of making a decisive pass they chose to shoot themselves.
     
  20. amirkat

    amirkat Well-Known Member

    England will get found out proper if Woy continues using Wilshere as the DM in the Euros. It's going to be ugly.

    Sterling is our best #10. Will take a while for Woy to clock on of course.
     

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