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Granit Xhaka: Managers Love Him!

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Marjorie, Aug 18, 2020.

  1. RacingPhoton

    RacingPhoton Well-Known Member

    What kind of logic is this? If you scored 1 goal, you need cleansheet to win the game. If you don't score, you need a cleansheet to draw the game. Both are important if you want to compete for the league.
    Why are we even having this discussion in the Xhaka thread? Your argument for Xhaka is now to just stop giving importance to defense?
     
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  2. Ash10

    Ash10 Jury Lite

    The moment this bum gets sold pretty much 80% of his cult will leave this forum to join their lord & savior as they were never arsenal fans to begin with
     
  3. RacingPhoton

    RacingPhoton Well-Known Member

    This is proper catch 22. He needs acres of space to actually display that passing range he has. If he gets that space, it usually means the opponent defenders have settled in their positions already to handle our forwards' movement, at which time those passes he makes are of no use.

    And then people wonder why our attack is so one dimensional.
     
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  4. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant and Believer-In-Chief Trusted

    Wasn't the David Luiz? 00:23

     
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  5. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    No, not that.
     
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  6. Manberg

    Manberg Predator

    :lol:
     
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  7. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Planes, Trains & Social Media Rants

    Lol bro, If you're not blaming Gabriel why I have I bothered writing all that. :lol:

    Wait . . .
     
  8. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Planes, Trains & Social Media Rants

    Top post.
     
  9. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Got Swerved By Gallas Trusted

    Brooooooo why you gotta be so slippery man. It’s like going round in circles.

    What about the point you could drive a tractor between our defense and midfield?
     
  10. Trilly

    Trilly Full-Time Respecter Of Women Trusted

    Nothing to do with Xhaka at this point, you’re just digging your heels in because you think this is a Xhaka defence. It’s not.

    You’re just trying to argue that clean sheets are more important than scoring goals and it’s blowing my mind. Honestly.

    I’ll repeat. You can’t win a football match without scoring.
     
  11. Trilly

    Trilly Full-Time Respecter Of Women Trusted

    He’s saying if you have to nitpick you blame Gabriel. Ultimately it was good attacking play rather than anyone in particular being at fault.

    The goal happened because we didn’t squeeze quickly enough, but even then we’re talking about Bayern/City/Pool level co-ordination in terms of team pressing. Leicester took advantage of us being slow to squeeze and executed perfectly.
     
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  12. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Planes, Trains & Social Media Rants

    :lol: You blamed Gabriel, I went to the trouble of getting a freeze frame and constructed an argument showing I didn't think he was. You then said it was a tactical error and then denied you'd said Gabriel was to blame. And when I showed your post, you called me slippery.

    It's very difficult to know if it's an Arteta tactical error or not because it's quite common for defenders to drop deep at times and you often see the manager screaming at them from the sidelines and waving them forward.
     
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  13. blaze_of_glory

    blaze_of_glory Moderator Moderator

    I didn't think pointing out that failing to score a goal means you're in a dangerous position would lead to this.

    VAR and Lacazette are as much to blame for the result as anyone involved in trying to defend that play. Can't be hanging out at 0-0 in the 8oth minute with chances missed throughout the first half and then point at the defense for losing.
     
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  14. Sebastes

    Sebastes Statbomb Merchant

    Yeah agree with this 100%.

    Me blaming Xhaka and Arteta was only about conceding that goal, bot losing. Well, I guess I blame Arteta for the loss on a whole, since I can’t see any other pattern in attack than “get it wide and cross it”. When the main players behind our chance creation are the four defenders, something is very wrong.
     
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  15. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Got Swerved By Gallas Trusted

    Yeah but in that post you basically agreed with me bro.

    You said he had split second decision, I agreed. Tactically though why is there such a gap?

    You literally won’t answer that point. It’s mental that the midfield line pushes up and the back four doesn’t move up.
     
  16. Macho

    Macho Has Trust Issues With Processes Trusted

    Lee Dixon kinda blamed Gabriel for the goal. Said he shoulda closed down sooner or stood his ground. He would know I guess.

    He didn’t even wanna talk about Xhaka :lol:
     
  17. blaze_of_glory

    blaze_of_glory Moderator Moderator

    Did he mention Mustafi being so far behind the play? I think there were a lot of things that went wrong in those few seconds and Gabriel was had to make a quick choice with Xhaka being run past and Mustafi not having dropped back where Gab wanted him to go.
     
  18. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant and Believer-In-Chief Trusted

    Mustafi was in such a bizarre position. That whole goal just felt like a team without anyone taking charge and organising
     
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  19. Trilly

    Trilly Full-Time Respecter Of Women Trusted

    Was this on the athletic podcast? I don’t have it anymore but I loved Lee offering a pros opinion on certain matters, very insightful.
     
  20. Trilly

    Trilly Full-Time Respecter Of Women Trusted

    They caught us while we were shuffling across, Mustafi hadn’t gotten across to Vardy by the time the pass was played.

    It’s hard to blame him because you rarely see defenders sprinting across the pitch when the ball is passed across it’s usually a gentle co-ordinated jog across pitch. They just caught us out and I think we’re all nitpicking over a goal that was created by genuine quality. Amplified by the fact we don’t score goals like that. :rofl:
     
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