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Granit Xhaka: Managers Love Him!

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Marjorie, Aug 18, 2020.

  1. RunTheTrap

    RunTheTrap Well-Known Member

    LMAO
    You try to use stats to support your agenda. Those same stats are ridiculed and proven wrong by @RacingPhoton and now we all know nothing. This is classic cultist behaviour. You give data to suit your own narrative Someone gives you quantifiable data which cannot be disputed with and rubbishes your claim and you’re unable to take the truth so you run away. Lool
     
  2. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    That's an excellent post. It's hard see past stats in football, they're often misleading.

    I watched Moneyball again last night, one of my favourite films. The scouts all agree which baseball players are good and which are bad by watching them. Then this kid from Yale says that they've been looking at the stats all wrong and they just laugh.
     
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  3. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    That's par for the course on here. Back when I joined in 2015 there was a general acceptance that Wenger had been poor for a while and the frustration was palpable, '4th is not a trophy', people bigging up Ferguson etc. But showing Wenger's points, wins and EPL finishes per £ spent gives a whole different perspective on the 2005-2015 period. In that light Wenger's stats were quite remarkable. Of course it produced a whole lot of anger and denials because people are unable to take the truth once they're invested.
     
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  4. Godwin1

    Godwin1 Very well-known

    Gilberto was universally liked amoung the fans, he was highly praised amoung all fans from what I remember.
     
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  5. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    Xhaka being compared to Invincible league champion and World Cup winner Gilberto Silva now...

    Hate 2020.
     
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  6. blaze_of_glory

    blaze_of_glory Moderator Moderator

    They also never faced the type of pressing that's in the game now (and ruining it imo)
     
  7. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    I wasn't being arrogant wtf?

    I just said watch the clip and you'd understand what Rex was talking about...
     
  8. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    Yeah he would have ruined the team press but shown exceptional nous to do so, the problem is if you do this regularly then more often that not you will cost your team.

    I'm not going to criticise a player for executing his manager's instructions and getting caught out though. This 'he should have ignored his coaching' opinion that is starting to grow on here is honestly baffling.

    Whatever happened to just saying fair play good goal?
     
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  9. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    Why are you constantly such a d*ck to him? Can't you disagree with someone without being a massively condescending *insert preferred insult here* ?
     
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  10. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant and Believer-In-Chief

    Think "fair play good goal" sticks a bit in the throat these days when you've not said it about your own team for a few matches
     
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  11. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    And I think that there is the problem in a nutshell.:lol:
     
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  12. Red London

    Red London Well-Known Member

    :rofl:
     
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  13. Ash10

    Ash10 Jury Lite

    I mean he's the one who constantly claims to have 'football knowledge', that he's trying to 'educate us', he has the 'right eyes', that we don't have the same level of understanding that he has. I've tried many times just to agree to disagree but oh no it was never enough. He always had to teach this dumb old me stuff based on his personal opinions & zero facts

    Yet I'm the condescending one? What a world we live in
     
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  14. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford Trusted

    Fair enough, I guess I missed those earlier interactions. Seems pretty one sided recently. *shrugs*
     
  15. RacingPhoton

    RacingPhoton Well-Known Member

    Moneyball. One of my favourite movies. I have also watched it so many times. I absolutely love that scene on transfer deadline.
     
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  16. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    It was still a great pass, a good run and goal--that's not to say it couldn't have been defended better. It doesn't have to be one or the other. If that was Mustafi in that position this debate wouldn't exist. Mustafi's still actually getting it despite being less culpable :lol: Anyway the broader picture is we were **** overall which is why we lost.
     
  17. Jasard

    Jasard Forum Issue Troubleshooter

    Imagine having a squad of players that isn't stuck in perpetual debate around if they are actually good or not. Christ.
     
  18. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    "The problem we're trying to solve is that there are rich teams, and there are poor teams. Then there's 50 feet of crap. And then there's us." :lol:
     
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  19. Ash10

    Ash10 Jury Lite

    *Gets wrecked* *Says something condescending* *Runs away*

    As Mark Jackson would say....Mama there goes that man
     
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  20. Jury

    Jury Mission Accomplished

    Can you fix the forum so all the non-Arsenal supporting mongoloids disappear?
     

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