📢 Rumour Granit Xhaka (Out)

[Taneruit]

That forward passes statistic has been debunked already to prove that they were played towards Tierney running on the left wing. He hardly played through balls for us. But he played them for Switzerland.

Nothing was debunked.

A majority went towards Tierney, yes (But far from *all of them*). That's not really a surprise at all when his role is on the left, especially with a coach that values the left-footers to play exactly that pass. His role is more central in the national team.

This was his long-pass map in his second season with us.

He's not a player of course where things go exactly through the middle. That's no different in the national team though. That pass for the equalizer is a rarity. I don't think I have ever seen a passmap of Xhaka that had more than 1-2 passes going straight into the box.

It's just not his game.

 

[Taneruit]

Pretty much they are.

Skhiri is a similar playmaking defensive midfielder, but a bit more dangerous in the box with his headers for example.

They are not.

In terms of interceptions and blocks he ranks the best in europe. He also barely passes the ball forward.

See for yourself

Ellyes Skhiri Stats | FBref.com

Career: 190 MP, 16 Gls, 9 Ast, 27 CrdY, 0 CrdR, 2021-2022: 3 MP, 0 Gls, 0 Ast, 1 CrdY, 0 CrdR, Köln, MF (CM-DM), Tunisia, 184cm, 68kg

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How is that Xhaka?

 

[RacingPhoton]

Nothing was debunked.

A majority went towards Tierney, yes (But far from *all of them*). That's not really a surprise at all when his role is on the left, especially with a coach that values the left-footers to play exactly that pass. His role is more central in the national team.

This was his long-pass map in his second season with us.

He's not a player of course where things go exactly through the middle. That's no different in the national team though. That pass for the equalizer is a rarity. I don't think I have ever seen a passmap of Xhaka that had more than 1-2 passes going straight into the box.

Again, these passes seem to go diagonal either way. Most of them were lobbed balls, something which he is good at, but hardly game changing. Take a look at this post. Partey was much better at passing through the middle than Xhaka.

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Xhaka's progressive passing equal passing to Tierney to the wing. It inflated stats.

Our midfield was joke. Only Partey could held his head up higher. When Partey is the CM who takes most risk in the team while trying to create, you have a problem.

I pity our attacking players.

 

[blaze_of_glory]

How is his forward passing "debunked" just because they are mostly diagonal? Forward passes are forward passes. It was never a "passes through the middle of the park" stat.

You can't take a stat and say it doesn't count because it's not some other stat. It is what it is.

 

[Red London]

Nothing was debunked.

A majority went towards Tierney, yes (But far from *all of them*). That's not really a surprise at all when his role is on the left, especially with a coach that values the left-footers to play exactly that pass. His role is more central in the national team.

This was his long-pass map in his second season with us.

He's not a player of course where things go exactly through the middle. That's no different in the national team though. That pass for the equalizer is a rarity. I don't think I have ever seen a passmap of Xhaka that had more than 1-2 passes going straight into the box.

It's just not his game.

For me, thats the issue. I think he is quite one dimensional with his passing, and that's why I rank Xhaka as one of the top 10 in the league at 'long passes' (blanket term I know), and average to poor at central intricate passes.

I would like someone capable of both. Out of our targets I think Locatelli is capable of that, I think Neves is slightly more capable than Xhaka too. Bissouma is probably a bit better at central forward passes but not capable of Xhaka's range. So it depends what we get but I like Locatelli for this stuff.

 

[RacingPhoton]

How is his forward passing "debunked" just because they are mostly diagonal? Forward passes are forward passes. It was never a "passes through the middle of the park" stat.

You can't take a stat and say it doesn't count because it's not some other stat. It is what it is.

Of course they are password passes. No one said they are not. The question is how useful they are for the team. If he is just going to keep passing to Tierney like a robot, there is nothing of use. Getting him to replace Cazorla vastly crippled our creativity from midfield.

 

[blaze_of_glory]

Of course they are password passes. No one said they are not. The question is how useful they are for the team. If he is just going to keep passing to Tierney like a robot, there is nothing of use. Getting him to replace Cazorla vastly crippled our creativity from midfield.

Ok but it's not "debunked." It would be debunked if he didn't actually make those passes.

 

[NieThePiet]

They are not.

In terms of interceptions and blocks he ranks the best in europe. He also barely passes the ball forward and gets rid of it.

See for yourself

Ellyes Skhiri Stats | FBref.com

Career: 190 MP, 16 Gls, 9 Ast, 27 CrdY, 0 CrdR, 2021-2022: 3 MP, 0 Gls, 0 Ast, 1 CrdY, 0 CrdR, Köln, MF (CM-DM), Tunisia, 184cm, 68kg

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How is that Xhaka?

Because you should consider the way Cologne was playing last season.
They dropped very deep for most of the games, long balls from Keeper and defenders.

Skhiri isn't someone who is conducting a whole game over 90 minutes, but he has a very good passing range.

Was one of his main strenghts at his time at Montpellier. Im combination with his Interceptions he is the right player for this position. Often played in the defensive midfield together with Hector at Cologne, while Hector played the more offensive part.

Of course he isn't the 1:1 similar player like Xhaka, but you wouldn't play Skhiri and Xhaka together.

 

[Erlis]

Just found this link ops:

Granit Xhaka was only joking about Roma rumours and will stay at Arsenal - Just Arsenal News

Just Arsenal News, Transfer Rumours And Discussion about all matters relating to Arsenal Football Club

www.justarsenal.com

 

[Xln]

Reading Mourinho wants Icardi for 40 mil? Sounds bs but if it's true where do they pull out the 40mil from?

 

[AbouCuéllar]

Just found this link ops:

Granit Xhaka was only joking about Roma rumours and will stay at Arsenal - Just Arsenal News

Just Arsenal News, Transfer Rumours And Discussion about all matters relating to Arsenal Football Club

www.justarsenal.com

So Fabrizio Romano is just making this up:


And Xhaka has been joking, because, why exactly? Piss off his employer? Gain a reputation for being a funny man and an admirer of Rome?

Nah, doesn't really add up. Sounds like a guy with an agenda who wants to be right despite the evidence.

 

[DUFFMAN]

Is he still here???

Jesus we just can't shift our deadwood.

Literary noone wants them.

 

[Blankety Blank]

Is he still here???

Jesus we just can't shift our deadwood.

Literary noone wants them.

Our best midfielder by far until Arteta signed Partey.
Bellerin is another who is proving difficult to move.
When you cannot get good money for 2 of your better saleable players it shows you what a massive task we have due to years of mismanagement.
Transfermarket rate them at over 40m combined. We wont be getting near that.
Same with someone like Laca.
Then you look at other midfielders like Elneny & torreira that are worth buttons.

We have a few saleable english players but also need to keep our English quota up so its really tough. We can only say for sure Saka & ESR are staying & look like the quality needed.

Fringe players like AMN, Eddie & Reece are not gonna go for big money. Simple fact is they are not top 6 level players.

 

[TromsoGooner]

Our best midfielder by far until Arteta signed Partey.
Bellerin is another who is proving difficult to move.
When you cannot get good money for 2 of your better saleable players it shows you what a massive task we have due to years of mismanagement.
Transfermarket rate them at over 40m combined. We wont be getting near that.
Same with someone like Laca.
Then you look at other midfielders like Elneny & torreira that are worth buttons.

We have a few saleable english players but also need to keep our English quota up so its really tough. We can only say for sure Saka & ESR are staying & look like the quality needed.

Fringe players like AMN, Eddie & Reece are not gonna go for big money.

Great bump

 

[Erlis]

So Fabrizio Romano is just making this up:


And Xhaka has been joking, because, why exactly? Piss off his employer? Gain a reputation for being a funny man and an admirer of Rome?

Nah, doesn't really add up. Sounds like a guy with an agenda who wants to be right despite the evidence.

I did not post that as being an absolute truth but just as a different opinion. He (the author of that link) might be wrong just like anyone else can unless we see an offical statement from Arsenal or Xhaka himself.

Therefore, everything is BS until then. Including the tweet u posted.
Xhaka never said that he is planning to leave Arsenal or join Roma in any of his post-season interviews. However, this does not mean that he will not leave. Waiting for that official statement thereof.

 

[Tourbillion]

Ugh.

 

[Arai]

Is that true @yousif_arsenal ?

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

Is that true @yousif_arsenal ?

i hope it's. but this is coming from this roma blog info not from newspaper. but i'm pretty sure they'll push for a move when Xhaka comeback from holiday they not targeting other midfielders.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

we might also looking to secure his replacement before let him go but i believe it's more roma delaying paying 20M euros than us secure replacement that's why this deal in stall mode.

 

[El Duderino]

we might also looking to secure his replacement before let him go but i believe it's more roma delaying paying 20M euros than us secure replacement that's why this deal in stall mode.

This is 100% Roma trying to bring the price down. They're the only one's he wants to join and they know we want to sell.