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Hector Bellerin: 2019/20 Performances

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Beksl

Sell All The Youngsters
If Bellerin isnt fit enough to give an adequate peformance at PL level due to as you claim not being fit enough physically or mentally prepared then he shouldnt be playing.

He is adequately performing thou.
 

Zazu

Active Member
I would say the following are better RBs than Bellerin

Soares
Chambers
AMN
TAA
Wan Bissaka
Perreira
Walker
Danilo
Azpilicueta
Aurier
Walkers Peters
Aarons
Coleman
Holegate
Lawton
Ward

There is probably a few others I am forgetting.

Walker-peters and ward :lol:

FFS man, one of the worst shouts I've seen on this forum and that's saying something.
 

UpTheGunnerz

Vrei sa pleci dar una una iei

Player:Elneny
Top lad, great person, dont think he is anything special as a player. But then again, not every player has to be. Dont mind if we sell him for a decent fee and go for Max Aarons.
Hector Bellerin = Very replacable
 

Mitch

Blonde Brigade Grand Wizard
He is adequately performing thou.

Hes been our worst player sticking out like sore thumb. You only have to go through the game match thread to see how many people thought that Bellerin was very poor. Whilst coming no where near the standard that AMN had producing.
 

Mitch

Blonde Brigade Grand Wizard
Walker-peters and ward :lol:

FFS man, one of the worst shouts I've seen on this forum and that's saying something.

Ward had been one of most undderrated RB in the league the past decade. Doesnt offer much going forward but solid defensively and consistent.

Bellerin has failed to master the basics of positional awarness and discipline.
 

El Duderino

That's, like, your opinion, man.
Moderator
Just ignore the dozen or so posts made by posters in the match thread to suit own agenda I see.

I'm so glad you're finally realizing you have one, Mitch! It takes real courage, but admiting your merchantry is the first step towards your recovery!

Hope you have a great week!
 

Beksl

Sell All The Youngsters
Hes been our worst player sticking out like sore thumb. You only have to go through the game match thread to see how many people thought that Bellerin was very poor. Whilst coming no where near the standard that AMN had producing.

He was poor in the first half against Newcastle, but in grand scheme of things he's been decent since returning from injury.
 

Rex Stone

Long live the fighters
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Ward had been one of most undderrated RB in the league the past decade. Doesnt offer much going forward but solid defensively and consistent.

Bellerin has failed to master the basics of positional awarness and discipline.

Palace have been looking to upgrade on him the last two windows though?
 

GunnerBP

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This Bellerin criticism is just absurd. Clearly it takes a while to get back to 100% after a big ACL injury, but regardless of the injury, he's not attacking that much due to Arteta's tactics. And he is clearly doing exactly what Arteta wants him to do.

Arteta is trying to spread the pitch, and based on our personnel that means that Xhaka is initially dropping deep into being essentially at LCB in a pseudo-back three when we have possession before moving back into midfield, and Saka is pushing up into being practically a LW.

When Saka becomes a LW, Auba becomes a second striker, and now we are playing with a front four of Saka, Auba, Nketiah/Laca, and Pepe. Özil also joins in to make it almost a front 5, and now Xhaka, Ceballos, and Hector function as midfielders with Luiz and Mustafi behind them. Xhaka is covering for Saka defensively, and Hector is doing the same for Pepe. This helps keep possession and defend against counter-attacks.

Comparing Hector to Saka just doesn't make any sense because under Arteta they have completely different roles in our system. Hector's job when we have possession is to help us retain possession and to defend against the counter. Saka is trying to get in the final third and create chances.

Additionally against Newcastle, Hector also had to defend Newcastle's best player. Sure it would be great if Hector was big enough to physically dominate Saint Maximin, but he isn't, so Hector spent a day committing tactical fouls and slowing Saint Maximin down until the double team could arrive. Pepe did a great job defensively.

Also, since Arteta has been back there has been one match where Hector was supposed to contribute in the final third, and that was Chelsea after the red card. And in that match, he scored the game-tying goal.

Hector is doing exactly what Arteta wants and we have gotten much better defensively, and based on yesterday our attack has gotten much better too.

The only way Hector will start bombing down the wing and contributing to the attack is if Mari becomes a starter and this results in Arteta changing our tactics, or we're down to ten men and need him to start attacking.

If Mari starts, I suspect that Xhaka won't drop back into defense and become practically a LCB. Instead he'll stay in the middle, but drop a little deeper, and our CBs will move out wide, making a quasi-back three. Ceballos and Özil will remain in the center, but ahead of Xhaka, and both or our fullbacks will have license to move into the attack. We'll play a high line defensively, and our CBs will be charged with stopping the counter-attack. Man City does this all the time when Laporte plays.
 

Taylor Gang Gunners

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He needs to find some consistency. He’s either having really good games (Chelsea) or terrible ones.

He’ll improve as he keeps getting match minutes. Regarding his pace, his running style can maybe mislead a few people. Not saying he’s as explosive as he was when he first burst onto the scene, but the way he runs may lead some to believe he’s lost a few yards.

He’s still rapid- he demonstrates this in a lot of his overlaps.
 

Jae

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Hes been our worst player sticking out like sore thumb. You only have to go through the game match thread to see how many people thought that Bellerin was very poor. Whilst coming no where near the standard that AMN had producing.

You need to come inside and off that ledge you're on mate.
 

pigge

#Pigge #Equality

Player:Martinelli
He wasnt Good before the injury, he wont be after either unless he improves from His form. Before the injury. Some People say it Will take 1-2 years to recover after he has recovered from His injury? Lol. IF thats true we should sell him we cant wait 18 months for him to finally be bang average instead of poor as he has been since coming back. His chelsea rating is overrated cause he curled one in.
 

truth_hurts

but Holding’s hair transplant was painless
Peaked vs Chelsea. He is a good right back, but not elite by any stretch of he imagination. Worth keeping, but a big offer should be looked at if it were to come in.
 

Red London

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This Bellerin criticism is just absurd. Clearly it takes a while to get back to 100% after a big ACL injury, but regardless of the injury, he's not attacking that much due to Arteta's tactics. And he is clearly doing exactly what Arteta wants him to do.

Arteta is trying to spread the pitch, and based on our personnel that means that Xhaka is initially dropping deep into being essentially at LCB in a pseudo-back three when we have possession before moving back into midfield, and Saka is pushing up into being practically a LW.

When Saka becomes a LW, Auba becomes a second striker, and now we are playing with a front four of Saka, Auba, Nketiah/Laca, and Pepe. Özil also joins in to make it almost a front 5, and now Xhaka, Ceballos, and Hector function as midfielders with Luiz and Mustafi behind them. Xhaka is covering for Saka defensively, and Hector is doing the same for Pepe. This helps keep possession and defend against counter-attacks.

Comparing Hector to Saka just doesn't make any sense because under Arteta they have completely different roles in our system. Hector's job when we have possession is to help us retain possession and to defend against the counter. Saka is trying to get in the final third and create chances.

Additionally against Newcastle, Hector also had to defend Newcastle's best player. Sure it would be great if Hector was big enough to physically dominate Saint Maximin, but he isn't, so Hector spent a day committing tactical fouls and slowing Saint Maximin down until the double team could arrive. Pepe did a great job defensively.

Also, since Arteta has been back there has been one match where Hector was supposed to contribute in the final third, and that was Chelsea after the red card. And in that match, he scored the game-tying goal.

Hector is doing exactly what Arteta wants and we have gotten much better defensively, and based on yesterday our attack has gotten much better too.

The only way Hector will start bombing down the wing and contributing to the attack is if Mari becomes a starter and this results in Arteta changing our tactics, or we're down to ten men and need him to start attacking.

If Mari starts, I suspect that Xhaka won't drop back into defense and become practically a LCB. Instead he'll stay in the middle, but drop a little deeper, and our CBs will move out wide, making a quasi-back three. Ceballos and Özil will remain in the center, but ahead of Xhaka, and both or our fullbacks will have license to move into the attack. We'll play a high line defensively, and our CBs will be charged with stopping the counter-attack. Man City does this all the time when Laporte plays.
Fantastic post.
 
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