Is The Premier League Tougher Than It Used To Be?

[A_G]

Lol the league is a joke from time Moyes is running tings

Moyes was running the ting from 2004-2009 too.

 

[Macho]

Moyes was running the ting from 2004-2009 too.

You’re right actually

 

[Riou]

Moyes was running the ting from 2004-2009 too.

Proving that both periods are equal!

 

[Tir Na Nog]

The Bolton side that scraped survival on the final day in 03 wipes the floor with at LEAST half the league btw.

Also went and beat United at OT two seasons in a row if we want to play that game.

I said it before in this thread there's no actual evidence in this thread, just cope because of how **** Arsenal have become.

 

[Oxeki]

Why did Liverpool and Chelsea do everything to bottle top four? They could get away with a few injuries and still win a few years ago, but now you have the likes of Fulham and Newcastle going to Anfield and coming away with something.

Liverpool were battling with injuries last season. Chelsea had their own version of Arteta stinking up the place until he was binned.

 

[A_G]

Liverpool were battling with injuries last. Chelsea had their own version of Arteta stinking up the place until he was binned.

He wasn't their Arteta tbf, he's finished in the top 4 before.

 

[Riou]

He wasn't their Arteta tbf, he's finished in the top 4 before.

How many permanent Chelsea managers under Roman, never won a trophy?

Can be many in there with Fat Frank

 

[Oxeki]

He wasn't their Arteta tbf, he's finished in the top 4 before.

But the point still stands. He was tanking their season and he was binned.

Tuchel even tried to bottle the top on the final day but there was basically no challenger and it fortunately didn't cost them.

 

[A_G]

But the point still stands. He was tanking their season and he was binned.

Tuchel even tried to bottle the top on the final day but there was basically no challenger and it fortunately didn't cost them.

I don't understand why you think that means the league is weak? If anything it proves that anyone can beat the big teams on any given day.

 

[2Smokeyy]

Let’s be real, none of top teams at the moment can chat to the two teams below:

 

[Tir Na Nog]

Let’s be real, none of top teams at the moment can chat to the two teams below:

How can people seriously not think this is peak Barclays?

 

[Farzad Stoned]

If you look at strength it must be measured against the top leagues in Europe. La Liga dominated European competitions for a decade, but in the last 3 or 4 years the PL teams have have dominated the CL with 2 all English finals in 3 years. The foreign TV deal has given Premier league teams even lower levels ones a financial advantage over the other big 4 leagues. This is the best the league has been against European competition since the late 70s and early to mid 80s when 3 separate English teams Villa, Forest and LFc were dominating the old European cup. When you look at the collapse of La Liga financially, and the limited wage structures in Germany, the Pl is the best because it has the most money, the most big clubs, and the most big name managers.

 

[Riou]

Peak Barclays will always be United v Arsenal, tbh.

You will never see a rivalry like that again in this league, felt like a scripted film series at times.

 

[Farzad Stoned]

How can people seriously not think this is peak Barclays?

City’s team now and LFC team that ran away with league and won CL year before would smash these teams. Nostalgia always makes old legends better than they were sports and athletes get better over time.

 

[Riou]

City’s team now and LFC team that ran away with league and won CL year before would smash these teams. Nostalgia always makes old legends better than they were sports and athletes get better over time.

They definitely wouldn't smash them, they would be tight games.

Think all 4 teams are around the same level, imo.

 

[2Smokeyy]

City’s team now and LFC team that ran away with league and won CL year before would smash these teams. Nostalgia always makes old legends better than they were sports and athletes get better over time.

Nah, I don’t think they would.

People seem to be sleeping on that Utd team with Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez. They also had a fantastic partnership with Ferdinand and Vidic at the back - for me, that was arguably better than their 99 team.

 

[Riou]

for me, that was arguably better than their 99 team.

Agreed, it's the same with us.

United 1999 and Arsenal 2004, had the most famous achievement for their respective clubs.

But in terms of who is the best team based on all-round ability, it's our 2002 team and their 2008 team.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

City’s team now and LFC team that ran away with league and won CL year before would smash these teams. Nostalgia always makes old legends better than they were sports and athletes get better over time.

Not a hope would they smash them. That United team in particular is scary good and has way too much fire power not to score a few past either side. I mean Brentford managed to score 3 Vs Liverpool, you telling me Ronaldo, Tevez and Rooney supplied by Scholes and Carrick couldnt do the same?

 

[2Smokeyy]

Might be an unpopular opinion with these modern day fans but in terms of ability, I’d even stretch as far to say that Ferdinand was a better defender than VVD imo. I rate VVD highly but peak Ferdinand was just as good, if not better than him.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

Might be an unpopular opinion with these modern day fans but in terms of ability, I’d even stretch as far to say that Ferdinand was a better defender than VVD imo. I rate VVD highly but peak Ferdinand was just as good, if not better than him.

This is not a stretch at all, Ferdinand is the greatest defender in PL history. And he has a decade and a half almost of proof, and at least 10 of those years he was at the absolute top of his game.