Got swerved by DCL's skirt
You can go around in circles. I’ll say to you Europe was strong between 1990-2015, but there has been a decline elsewhere rather than an uplift in English teams. Serie A has been declining, there are no top Italian teams. Barcelona haven’t built a team so since Pep left, have been disgraceful in recent years. The Real Madrid cycle of Varane, Modric, Kroos, Marcelo etc has come to an end.
In recent Bayern have only been the good CL side outside England.
Your measurements will bring a lot of great players in question too. Then you have the argument that someone like Fernandinho still hasn’t played a CL final despite playing for by far the best English team in recent years, so what does that say?
The level of the champions league was high until about 2015ish, massive decline since then, group stages are watered down and your seeing the same team in and around semis because the rest of Europe has fallen off.
Even this season, an English team will win it, because outside England nearly every team is crap. Barca, Madrid, PSG, Juventus etc all rubbish. It’s Bayern vs England.
I’m just saying you can’t measure the way you are.
Exactly. There’s no proper stats to say that Fernandinho is better than Carrick like there would be in basketball or cricket.
Either you know ball or you don’t.