Ricardinho
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Don't contracts run until the end of June?
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Jack Wilshere: Where to now?
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Don't contracts run until the end of June?
Although I like and respect Wenger, I wanted a new manager to see something else and fresh instead of the uninspiring and stale relationship it had become. And it's the same with Wilshere. Although I like him and see what could be there, I'm just tired of waiting for him to come good, it's been too f*cking long. We've been waiting for him to get fit and healthy, and then we've been waiting for him to get into shape and form, and it just hasn't paid off in any way. I want someone else in midfield instead of him, someone who gets me excited again with his abilities and promise instead of making me wonder when he'll finally turn the corner.
Southgate mustn't be a fan of the ol' progressive passing. But really the main thing you take away from that is that Özil is 5th on the list. Might not be a bad player after all?
Kash
Arsène FC Supporter
No one smokes now man....one just vapes. And players have blood tests done, Nicotine will show up. Give it a rest. The whole world has piled on this kids head since he was a teen, at least our own fans should be supportive. Remember, against Atletico, he was the only one who made something happen. Jack has drive, talent and belief.
IslingtonBornandbred
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Wilshere was pictured smoking around 2013-2015. During this time blood tests were done, in fact top clubs have been doing daily/weekly blood tests on players since the mid 2000's to check certain measurements, it didn't stop him.
The discussion one poster mentioned was something along the lines of he feels that Wilshere could have looked after himself better in the past and smoking is definitely something that's not advisable for a professional athlete but it's not exactly the end of the world, it's just a little silly if you want to make marginal gains or be in top condition.
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Kash
Arsène FC Supporter
Just a vile campaign and innuendo. This fanbase is really toxic. The guy played his heart out and went beyond his physical limits when a teenager. Just vile.
Could mean something, or nothing.
IslingtonBornandbred
Active Member
You are having an absolute laugh.
Poster above made a comment that he felt Jack hasn't been as professional as he should have been in the past considering he's been pulled up a number of times for smoking and even the main man Arsène Wenger said it was completely unacceptable and he disagreed with that behaviour. Is Arsène Wenger toxic to say or think that?
Put me on your ignore list with all the others.
Lidl_Reed
Wants a new name
You think our best player might not be a bad player?
Kash
Arsène FC Supporter
You have said a lot of things without any basis.
Lies. Innuendo. Slander. Disingenuous. Vile. Toxic. Pathetic
Relic
Active Member
[QUOTE="Rimaal, post: 4602466, member: 93219"
Oh and Wilsh is the last name on the list.[/QUOTE]
Jack is at the bottom because that's where the list stops, unless you're suggesting there are only 31 players in the top 5 leagues in Europe?
Jury
A-M's drunk uncle
...of an exceptional bunch, no? That's the five major leagues, and he's 31st of all the players playing in the five major leagues...
The search party has been sent out for Xhaka
Weed taking over recovery, enabling sleep & cutting down on medication in sports now. Put down the vapes & light up.
IslingtonBornandbred
Active Member
As I keep trying to explain to you the poster @Robb0since1966 was just discussing that he felt that Wilshere had made mistakes in the past like for example smoking and having fist fights outside of nightclubs.
In your state of delusion you told him to "give it a rest" and "nobody smokes now, they just vape" like you have some insight into the smoking habits of everybody but I am not sure what you meant by "nobody" because I know plenty of people who smoke tobacco.
You then stated that players have blood tests and nicotine would show up. This is irrelevant. I told you a period between 2013-15 where Wilshere was photographed smoking and in that period he would have been having blood tests. You then accused the fanbase of being toxic because @Robb0since1966 mentioned Wilshere's professionalism and dedication in the past. I then quoted Wenger who stated he wasn't happy with it and it's not the behaviour that he expects from a professional player.
These aren't "Lies. Innuendo. Slander. Disingenuous. Vile. Toxic. Pathetic." They are opinions, truths and facts.
Pick you're argument and fight somewhere else because there is no argument or discussion here, just facts and I won't just sit back and ignore you calling people toxic and vile just because they feel that a professional athlete earning millions of pounds should probably not be smoking in the first place, let alone be photographed smoking outside a nightclub when he was injured.
Wilshere said he made a mistake. Wenger said he wasn't happy with it. But apparently it's vile and toxic to suggest that a player who hasn't kicked on with his development could have been a little more professional and dedicated in earlier years, something he himself has suggested in a recent interview.
Kash
Arsène FC Supporter
you do know that one can vape weed too?
Seriously, Wilshere getting caught smoking is not exactly a secret, Wenger even criticised him for it.. I don't even agree with those questioning his dedication, but the only thing pathetic here is you attacking others for no good reason..
It's ok, my tongue was in my cheek.
Sammy1887
New Year, Same Hate For Reed
Familiar with both. For me more of a head high vs body high.
Kash
Arsène FC Supporter
he got caught once... in a grainy pic....its not like he is a smoker. he was a young lad who was going through a lot and he grew up in the public glare. give the hating a rest...its vile.....its like ghouls forever needing a new body to pour their poison onto.
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