Jack Wilshere (Out)

[Yousif Arsenal]

If that really is our offer and he said no then you have to hand it to him, he really does want to play more than anything else. Fair enough.

Yes he want first team football and we can't offer him Torreira Xhaka Ramsey all ahead of him

 

[Tosker]

I can't help feeling sad if it's true he was desperate to stay - we do seem to be shifting slowly but surely from a hard core of true Arsenal lovers to a more mercenary 'only passing through' set of players

inevitable in the modern football world but sad nevertheless

but if we keep Ramsey and make him captain I will feel better about saying goodbye to Jack

 

[Mrs Bergkamp]

I don't think Wilshere's done enough to demand a starting place and sadly, he doesn't seem to back himself to change Emery's mind.

 

[Jellon Lamb]

sell Jack, buy Golovin, sorted

sell Jack, buy Golovin, sorted

Jack’s out of contract. Can’t sell him. He’s leaving on a free.

 

[NieThePiet]

Yes he want first team football and we can't offer him Torreira Xhaka Ramsey all ahead of him

in a probably three man midfield. Ramsey will surely not play all matches, we don't know how fast Torreira will addapt to the PL.

He would be the first alternative at the moment for all three, we have around 50 games a season. Something like "guaranteed starter" you don't get at Top Clubs.

 

[field442]

in a probably three man midfield. Ramsey will surely not play all matches, we don't know how fast Torreira will addapt to the PL.

He would be the first alternative at the moment for all three, we have around 50 games a season. Something like "guaranteed starter" you don't get at Top Clubs.

I don't think he will. Elneny would be the first alternative for Torreira and AMN for the other two. Jack isn't going to work in a pressing game. He's usually breathing through his arsehole after 60 minutes of a Wenger non-pressing game.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

in a probably three man midfield. Ramsey will surely not play all matches, we don't know how fast Torreira will addapt to the PL.

He would be the first alternative at the moment for all three, we have around 50 games a season. Something like "guaranteed starter" you don't get at Top Clubs.

I think he don't want to be squad player that the reason he want to leave. And we can't offer him first team role

 

[samshere]

Emery should have just told him that he was a starter and dropped him after he got injured.

 

[NieThePiet]

I think he don't want to be squad player that the reason he want to leave. And we can't offer him first team role

Depends on the definition of "squad player".
You normally don't have only 11 starters during a whole season, you need at least 14-15 for the first 11 and Wilshere would be one of them.

But surely will not have the guarantee, that he will start every game in the PL. If that's his point, than he has to join West Ham/Palace.

 

[Beksl]

Why are we quoting Cohn Jross?

 

[Slartibartfast]

Emery should have just told him that he was a starter and dropped him after he got injured.

Then they'd be stuck paying him £110,000 a week that could go to somebody far more suited to what Emery wants to do. No reason to keep him around based on sentiment. He's a bad choice for a pressing game such as Emery has traditionally employed and really isn't an Arsenal-level player anymore regardless (at least if Arsenal has top 4 ambitions). I'm glad Emery was honest with him. It's the best thing for the club and the best thing for Jack.

 

[truth_hurts]

Why would he make a decision based on who he supported as a kid? Makes zero sense.

It makes zero sense, you isolating the point regarding West Ham being his boyhood club. It's a combination of factors, which could make West Ham attractive.

 

[Garrincha]

If West Ham had different owners the move would be a no brainer with the stadium, Pellegrini as manager & arguably signing / linked to better players than us this window.

It seems pretty toxic with the trio in charge though.

 

[DanDare]

I can't help feeling sad if it's true he was desperate to stay - we do seem to be shifting slowly but surely from a hard core of true Arsenal lovers to a more mercenary 'only passing through' set of players

inevitable in the modern football world but sad nevertheless

but if we keep Ramsey and make him captain I will feel better about saying goodbye to Jack

You make players love your team and want to stay by winning things. Our classy nature is a bonus

 

[Longy]

I'm a Wilshere fan but understand he's not a first teamer.
I'm not a Ramsey fan but he's not a first teamer.

It's why I believe you only keep one.

Xhaka and Torreira as the 2 disciplined midfielders.
Where does Ramsey play ?

 

[razörist]

@Trilly we’re not kids anymore. Life goes on.

 

[razörist]

I'm a Wilshere fan but understand he's not a first teamer.
I'm not a Ramsey fan but he's not a first teamer.

It's why I believe you only keep one.

Xhaka and Torreira as the 2 disciplined midfielders.
Where does Ramsey play ?

 

[Slartibartfast]

But this has traditionally been the formation Emery has used -- a flexible 4-2-3-1 that can become a 4-3-3 with the No. 10 dropping back and a 4-4-2 in the defensive third. But with squad rotation there will be plenty of games for everyone, so every big player doesn't have to be squeezed into the lineup.

 

[TornadoTed]

This is the team and formation I would like to see, seems to fit the players we have best.

 

[grange]

Where's Ramsey? The team is being built around him (supposedly).