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Jack Wilshere: Where to now?
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Mark Tobias
Mr. Agreeable
No, Jack compared to young Jack, looks super old. He was always a childish look about but now he looks like 30 at least.
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MATHEO
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I dont get it, really !
I think everyone rates Ramsey, Cazorla, and Wilshere over here. I know that the three of them are all injury-prones but what are the odds of them getting ALL injured at the same time? Im pretty sure our 4th choice CM option wouldnt get anymore than 1 or 2 League games if any ..
Improving on them is difficult because they are already class players, any improvement would cost +50-60m when we have other positions to worry about like WC Striker, Improvement on Gibbs assuming one of Kolasinac/Monreal will start as a left CB, and an attacking midfielder because we seriously lack depth in that position as we only have Özil, Alexis and Iwobi who is much of a dip in quality compared to the former two, the three of them compete for 2 positions !
CM should be one of our least priorities at the moment imo
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Poundland GDeep
Cazorla is out until November at best. I rate him, but I think he's probably done like Arteta a few years ago.
Wilshere has barely shown anything in the last 4 years and is recovering from the injury. Tbh I'd rather keep Elneny, who is at least available for 30+ games a season (it's a much more important quality for a squad player than "bossed Xavi & Iniesta 10 years ago", "high ceiling", "young player of the year whenever", "our lad future captain will put an effort", etc.)
So that's it, we have Aaron Ramsey, who's injury-prone and hasn't been very consistent over the last few years, Granit Xhaka, who missed 7 games due to the red cards in the last season, and Coq & Neny as our main backups before the start of the season. One injury/unpurple path/red card - and the quality of our midfield drops dramatically.
Last time when we relied on poor & injury-prone players as our backups Leicester City won the title.
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MATHEO
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Again, you're talking about each player in an individual sense, we all know that they are all injury prone, the question is how likely that Cazorla, Wilshere, and Ramsey ALL be injured at the SAME time ?
Pretty low for me, even if it happens for a game or two, Elneny/Ox arent bad as 4th CM options
Improvement in any position is welcome, but CM is one of the least priorities now
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Poundland GDeep
What are you talking about?
Cazorla is already injured and will have been injured until November.
Wilshere is injured as well and nobody knows how long he's going to recover his fitness level. So we have two players who won't be ready for the start of the season already. I'm ok with Xhaka/Ramsey, but Neny, Coq and Ox are poverty midfielders (Ox isn't a midfielder at all). As a result we should pray that Ramsey and Xhaka will stay fit otherwise we're fecked and get a bottom-table level midfield.
I don't see where he fits in. We're not going to play him at the base of a diamond. He can't go box to box and he's not a DM. I don't see him displacing Özil or Xhaka in any formation. He can't play a game a week with a tailor made training programme never mind two. The only point on keeping him is hope but we've been here before...
Bournemouth resign an ageing Defoe and a young Ake both of whom have made a better impression than JW there-sixteen years apart! It's all a bit weird.
Artisan
Not Emery's Old Pal
He's got us by the ball here tbf, he won't be fit for the start of the season so we can't even flog him. So it's either let him go on a free or next to nothing in January or next summer or give him a deal and try and sell him later if he doesn't come good.
Good news atleast some talk via a dubious source of a new deal again. Had gone quiet.
Of all our injury prone British underachievers its Jack that never lets us down on the pitch. If he stays would back him to break into the first eleven at some point... Must be the weakest from his time at the club which is why I never understood his desire for the loan.
Of all our injury prone British underachievers its Jack that never lets us down on the pitch. If he stays would back him to break into the first eleven at some point... Must be the weakest from his time at the club which is why I never understood his desire for the loan.
FinnGooner
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karl
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Just like the whole of the last decade, we still have too many players likely to miss large amounts of the season. If Jack stays, he has to be considered a Diaby. Somewhere around, but only as bonus.
Personally I wouldn't invest a large salary or a squad place, because you need players likely to make an 80% appearance for the year. Also his form last season was nothing to get excited about. Too many injuries probably put doubt in his mind.
Personally I wouldn't invest a large salary or a squad place, because you need players likely to make an 80% appearance for the year. Also his form last season was nothing to get excited about. Too many injuries probably put doubt in his mind.
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I disagree that he has the upper hand. No top club is on for him and he faces going into the WC year having not played. He can go for a nominal fee in January but the best he can hope for is a rising Everton. It's going to take peak Iniesta like performances for him to be considered a starter here. In truth,I doubt he'll ever fulfil his potential. He's in Reus/Gundogan territory at all levels.
MATHEO
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We seriously lack quality when it comes to our strikers, we lack numbers when it comes to our LWB & AM options, Our DM backup options are mid-table quality (Even though I think that Elneny is underrated and underused), But heck .. some people think we need a CM as one of our top priorities even though we have not 1 not 2 but 3 class options, injury-prone though but they cant be all injured at the same time.
I dont mind a CM, but only after we sign players in 3 or 4 positions above.
The issue is if we lose Alexis. Can the new formations three man attack function without him? He brought an exceptional level of goals, creativity & defensive work rate.
We certainly didn't have a midfield partnership adequate for any two man midfield.
Adios.
Dammit
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Look who's back
Brown Gooner
DoN'T ceNsOR maH FreE SpEecH
In Jack, Santi and Aaron Arsenal have three very good midfielders. But alas all three are too darn injury prone!
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