Joe Willock: The True Joerdie

[RunTheTrap]

Don’t need to overrate our players to justify Arteta’s tactical flaws.

We have two problems here, our manager, and our players.

Willock didn’t play well, if you take away his goals, and just analyse his midfield buildup play, he is shxt.

What’s your beef with Joe? Did he smash your girl or something?

 

[SK___]

****** fc

 

[Rasmi]

with Ødegaard gong back willock can replace him. With willock there is no pleasing people. Most fans want to keep him and buy a new midfielder. So what good does it to him if he can’t get minutes. We need to sell players to make money. Sell el neny won’t bring money in. Keep willock and give him el nenys minutes will bring down his value and he wil ask to leave next season while his value has gone down. When you players go out on loan and taste first team football. They not gonna take not getting minutes anymore

 

[scytheavatar]

Don’t need to overrate our players to justify Arteta’s tactical flaws.

We have two problems here, our manager, and our players.

Willock didn’t play well, if you take away his goals, and just analyse his midfield buildup play, he is shxt.

And Auba is **** too if you take away his goals and just analyze his buildup play, so what's your point?

 

[Fewtch]

The question is, if our underperforming players (Bar the likes of Mustafi) are doing better on loan, is it not just clearly the case of a manager out of his depth?

I think Joe is just a better fit for the counterattacking low possession football they play at Newcastle. You guys are acting like we sent Vieira on loan lol, the kid is averaging 15 passes/90 with only 75% being successful. If he had these performances here then the same people crying for him would say he's ****

 

[Football Manager]

And Auba is **** too if you take away his goals and just analyze his buildup play, so what's your point?

Yes. Auba is shxt. We had Henry, Bergkamp, van persie, Sanchez who were great on the ball, elite passer, and played beautiful football. I have been always against the signing of auba (or any pure poacher shxt). Signings after signing of limited/one dimensional players has destroyed our identity of playing the best beautiful in the world.

 

[truth_hurts]

At least with Willock, Guendouzi and AMN play with passion. That gutless shute from Thursday still burns.

If we are to become a midtable club, then Willocks boundless energy has use here. Think I'd happily take 25m though.

 

[Gunner D]

Don’t need to overrate our players to justify Arteta’s tactical flaws.

We have two problems here, our manager, and our players.

Willock didn’t play well, if you take away his goals, and just analyse his midfield buildup play, he is shxt.

Every midfield player doesn’t have to be a tika taka player from Spain ffs.

 

[Gunner D]

What’s your beef with Joe? Did he smash your girl or something?

If he’s not a footballer who does enough silky turns or from a Spanish academy, then @Football Manager wont rate them.

 

[Big Poppa]

Sometimes I expect the skies to inexplicably open up above any number of our players, and rain a shower of liquid shyte down on them whilst on the pitch, covering them head to toe, it never does happen.

 

[Maybe]

If he’s not a footballer who does enough silky turns or from a Spanish academy, then @Football Manager wont rate them.

I do agree with him to some extent, Willock is still not involved enough other than some runs and a few goals he will add. There's not enough quality on the ball in his game to control the game for a big club. He can do the job for mid table clubs simply because they don't control the game, they like to defend and counter if possible, something that suits his game

 

[Gunner D]

I do agree with him to some extent, Willock is still not involved enough other than some runs and a few goals he will add. There's not enough quality on the ball in his game to control the game for a big club. He can do the job for mid table clubs simply because they don't control the game, they like to defend and counter if possible, something that suits his game

Whenever willock has played at the base of midfield, he’s looked decent. It’s when Arteta has played him behind the striker is when he’s looked poor because that’s not his natural position. He’s a box to box midfielder, similar to someone like Aaron Ramsey. A runner in the midfield who can bring the ball forward and score goals.

 

[Maybe]

Whenever willock has played at the base of midfield, he’s looked decent.

I agree with that, but "decent" won't be enough for us I'm afraid. We could discuss if he would add more than Ceballos or Elneny though

 

[Gunner D]

I agree with that, but "decent" won't be enough for us I'm afraid. We could discuss if he would add more than Ceballos or Elneny though

Lol mate, I’d offer more than Ceballos and Elneny in midfield. They’re barely footballers. Willock and AMN are clear of both of them. I’m not saying I would start the lad every game, but he deserves to be in the squad. He’s young and he’s Arsenal through and through. Big Steve Bruce has gotten more out of Willock than Arteta could ever dream of.

 

[Macho]

I do agree with him to some extent, Willock is still not involved enough other than some runs and a few goals he will add. There's not enough quality on the ball in his game to control the game for a big club. He can do the job for mid table clubs simply because they don't control the game, they like to defend and counter if possible, something that suits his game

This is a sound assessment the way you have explained it tbh. The main problem however, is some of the guys playing ahead of him (I think you even alluded to this).

He's not amazing we know this, but we don't know if he could be and this was the perfect season to find out. We've squandered it handing out minutes to nothing/temp players instead. Luckily Newcastle solved this problem for us, so either keeping or selling for a half decent fee suddenly looks feasible now.

Having this fraud Arteta assess the squad burns me though, I kinda want almost everybody to have a second chance under a new manager because it's hard to know who's actually trash or who's been destroyed over the past 18 months.

 

[tap-in]

Personally I think the best for Willock is another years loan with Newcastle. If he comes back here will he start? Probably not, especially if we buy a partner for Partey. If he stays and continues like he has been then his value rises and he could become a starter here. It depends on whether the club needs to cash in now to buy what we need this summer.

 

[Football Manager]

Whenever willock has played at the base of midfield, he’s looked decent. It’s when Arteta has played him behind the striker is when he’s looked poor because that’s not his natural position. He’s a box to box midfielder, similar to someone like Aaron Ramsey. A runner in the midfield who can bring the ball forward and score goals.

Ramsey was a liability in the midfield.

 

[Football Manager]

This is a sound assessment the way you have explained it tbh. The main problem however, is some of the guys playing ahead of him (I think you even alluded to this).

He's not amazing we know this, but we don't know if he could be and this was the perfect season to find out. We've squandered it handing out minutes to nothing/temp players instead. Luckily Newcastle solved this problem for us, so either keeping or selling for a half decent fee suddenly looks feasible now.

Having this fraud Arteta assess the squad burns me though, I kinda want almost everybody to have a second chance under a new manager because it's hard to know who's actually trash or who's been destroyed over the past 18 months.

I literally said the same thing, and you people disagree. Now he said it again and that is a sound assessment?

 

[Macho]

I literally said the same thing, and you people disagree. Now he said it again and that is a sound assessment?

“xxxx is shxt on the ball, we need iniesta, xavi, Spanish technical toddler etc” isn’t sound assessment, so yes we people disagree I’m afraid.

 

[Rasmi]

People are rewriting history. I hate Arteta more than anyone here. But he didn’t do willock wrong. He rarely did well for us and was usually a ghost in midfield. Before he was loaned out no one was against it or was calling for him to get mind. I swear if nketiah go out on loan next season and has a golden spell people will cry the manager never gave him chance and he should have started games for us.