Kai Havertz: Kais and Shine

Farzad

Whistleblower rights activist & PhD in Karenology

Country: USA

Player:Havertz
Alright I'm sold, @Farzad what about you?

He was good today he put in a shift He was better than Martinez who really blew a big chance and Trossard had a bad game. He is just not clinical enough for an elite team in Europe. Look around at rest of top ten teams in Europe they all have better strikers.
 

Gunner D

PGMLOL Enforcement Squad member
He was good today he put in a shift He was better than Martinez who really blew a big chance and Trossard had a bad game. He is just not clinical enough for an elite team in Europe. Look around at rest of top ten teams in Europe they all have better strikers.
The strikers in Europe are horrendous atm.
 

Farzad

Whistleblower rights activist & PhD in Karenology

Country: USA

Player:Havertz
The strikers in Europe are horrendous atm.
Mbappe, lewandowski i am talking the elite teams. The ones battling for league and Cl. I would take even Morata over him or Martinez at inter
 

Bloodbather

Established Member

Country: Turkiye
He was good today he put in a shift He was better than Martinez who really blew a big chance and Trossard had a bad game. He is just not clinical enough for an elite team in Europe. Look around at rest of top ten teams in Europe they all have better strikers.
Do they?

Man City - Yep.
Real Madrid - No actual CF. Maybe if you count Mbappe, but it's iffy.
Bayern - Yep.
Barcelona - Lewa is past it, but yep.
Liverpool - Nope.
PSG - Nope.
Inter - Nope.
Atletico - Nope.
Dortmund - Nope.
Leverkusen - Nope.

The truth is, there aren't many great centre forwards around. Only Haaland, Kane, Lewandowski, and Osimhen are clearly better than Havertz right now. Osimhen plays for Galatasaray, so you only have three elite teams with better CFs, really. Four if you count Mbappe.

Havertz might not be the most clinical, but there are very few players that bring the qualities he brings to the table as a CF right now.
 

Farzad

Whistleblower rights activist & PhD in Karenology

Country: USA

Player:Havertz
Do they?

Man City - Yep.
Real Madrid - No actual CF. Maybe if you count Mbappe, but it's iffy.
Bayern - Yep.
Barcelona - Lewa is past it, but yep.
Liverpool - Nope.
PSG - Nope.
Inter - Nope.
Atletico - Nope.
Dortmund - Nope.
Leverkusen - Nope.

The truth is, there aren't many great centre forwards around. Only Haaland, Kane, Lewandowski, and Osimhen are clearly better than Havertz right now. Osimhen plays for Galatasaray, so you only have three elite teams with better CFs, really.

Havertz might not be the most clinical, but there are very few players that bring the qualities he brings to the table as a CF right now.

Are you high you would take Kai over Boniface?
Guirassey and Martinez are easily clear as well if scoring goals matter. Alvarez also at Atleti better albeit overrated he is young though
 

Farzad

Whistleblower rights activist & PhD in Karenology

Country: USA

Player:Havertz
That's not true, he always had a couple of people defending him here. I was one of them also.
He makes imaginary AM told me arguments all the time. Posing himself as the voice of reason who knew better. And loves to be Little Miss name and shamer. It gets him off for some reason
 

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