Kenan Yıldız

[Rasmi]

Why do you post this crap?
What this has to do with anything?

Someone has to ask the real questions. I’m sorry if people get offended by hard hitting questions

 

[Trilly]

That's the thing. To remember Serie A as a top league and Juve as a truly huge club with massive pull, you need to be like early to mid 30s and up. These kids don't have that reference point so I don't think getting one of them out of Juve is the challenge it was even 10 years ago let alone when they were in their pomp, particularly with the huge disparity in resources.

Very fair point tbf!

 

[Mudi]

I'm Turkish and I would prefer Semenyo instead of Yildiz at Arsenal.

Yildiz plays very similar to Martinelli (off course much better footballer). Even physically they are the same. Semenyo is stronger and better one to one.

 

[Kuroske]

I'm Turkish and I would prefer Semenyo instead of Yildiz at Arsenal.

Yildiz plays very similar to Martinelli (off course much better footballer). Even physically they are the same. Semenyo is stronger and better one to one.

So what you’re saying is that he’s a better version of Martinelli?
Martinelli’s weakness is his vision and passing.
Get this guy if he’s really the better version of Martinelli!

 

[Bloodbather]

I'm Turkish and I would prefer Semenyo instead of Yildiz at Arsenal.

Yildiz plays very similar to Martinelli (off course much better footballer). Even physically they are the same. Semenyo is stronger and better one to one.

I'm also Turkish and I would prefer Yıldız to Semenyo.

Semenyo is what he is, he'd be good for us in the same way Eze is. But probably a better fit for a more direct side. Yıldız, on the other hand, has the potential of a future Ballon d'Or winner. Special combination of attributes. He's only 20, he'll get stronger.

Playing similar to Martinelli but being a lot better than him would make him an ideal signing. If Martinelli had Yıldız's finesse in finishing and his ability to get through tight spaces, we wouldn't be thinking about a LW signing right now.

I don't really agree that he plays similar to Martinelli anyway. Yıldız is a lot more keen to play one-twos, get central, and look for goals that way. He's not a speed merchant like Martinelli, either, much more of a finesse player. The only thing they have in common aside from being right footed LWs is their directness.

 

[Kuroske]

I'm also Turkish and I would prefer Yıldız to Semenyo.

Semenyo is what he is, he'd be good for us in the same way Eze is. But probably a better fit for a more direct side. Yıldız, on the other hand, has the potential of a future Ballon d'Or winner. Special combination of attributes. He's only 20, he'll get stronger.

Playing similar to Martinelli but being a lot better than him would make him an ideal signing. If Martinelli had Yıldız's finesse in finishing and his ability to get through tight spaces, we wouldn't be thinking about a LW signing right now.

I don't really agree that he plays similar to Martinelli anyway. Yıldız is a lot more keen to play one-twos, get central, and look for goals that way. He's not a speed merchant like Martinelli, either, much more of a finesse player. The only thing they have in common aside from being right footed LWs is their directness.

It’s gonna be tough to get Yildiz. He’s the main man at Juventus, and I’d assume they’ll pay him a star-level salary. Don’t underestimate Juve — they can still offer superstar wages.

They’re playing in the Champions League every year and always in the mix for the league title. Plus, the quality of life in Italy is a big factor for a lot of players.

Does he really want to move to a league where he has to press nonstop and run himself into the ground against physical defenders?

 

[ArsenalInMyHeart]

It’s gonna be tough to get Yildiz. He’s the main man at Juventus, and I’d assume they’ll pay him a star-level salary. Don’t underestimate Juve — they can still offer superstar wages.

They’re playing in the Champions League every year and always in the mix for the league title. Plus, the quality of life in Italy is a big factor for a lot of players.

Does he really want to move to a league where he has to press nonstop and run himself into the ground against physical defenders?

Its easier to get Semenyo because he has his RC. We just do the same thing like Zubi and Eze

 

[MikelHadADream]

I'm Turkish and I would prefer Semenyo instead of Yildiz at Arsenal.

Yildiz plays very similar to Martinelli (off course much better footballer). Even physically they are the same. Semenyo is stronger and better one to one.

He looks a lot technical the GM? Doesn’t really look very fast.

 

[Bloodbather]

It’s gonna be tough to get Yildiz. He’s the main man at Juventus, and I’d assume they’ll pay him a star-level salary. Don’t underestimate Juve — they can still offer superstar wages.

They’re playing in the Champions League every year and always in the mix for the league title. Plus, the quality of life in Italy is a big factor for a lot of players.

Does he really want to move to a league where he has to press nonstop and run himself into the ground against physical defenders?

Yeah, I agree. Much easier to get Semenyo than Yıldız. Yıldız will probably want to achieve some stuff with Juve as the main man before looking to move, he's very young anyway.

I doubt we'll get Yıldız, but he would be my #1 target for sure.

 

[Mudi]

So what you’re saying is that he’s a better version of Martinelli?
Martinelli’s weakness is his vision and passing.
Get this guy if he’s really the better version of Martinelli!

No I did not say that,

I said he is a better footballer, meaning he does things better than Martinelli and he has the same strength and same weaknesses...

 

[Trilly]

I’ll rate Berta so highly if we’re genuinely interested. A new LW was pretty much the only thing we needed that we didn’t get done this summer and when you look at the amount of turnover we had/lack of good offers for Trossard and Nelli you can forgive him for not getting it done.

The fact we’re being linked to a player with the exact position, age range and ceiling that we need shows me that this summer wasn’t a one off. Berta knows exactly what we need both short and long term and the best part is that he’s not afraid to start right at the top of the list, looks like we’re at least trying to shop in M&S before going to Tesco.

 

[OnlyOne]

I’ll rate Berta so highly if we’re genuinely interested. A new LW was pretty much the only thing we needed that we didn’t get done this summer and when you look at the amount of turnover we had/lack of good offers for Trossard and Nelli you can forgive him for not getting it done.

The fact we’re being linked to a player with the exact position, age range and ceiling that we need shows me that this summer wasn’t a one off. Berta knows exactly what we need both short and long term and the best part is that he’s not afraid to start right at the top of the list, looks like we’re at least trying to shop in M&S before going to Tesco.

Yildiz isn’t a winger really, more a SS.

 

[Mudi]

I'm also Turkish and I would prefer Yıldız to Semenyo.

Semenyo is what he is, he'd be good for us in the same way Eze is. But probably a better fit for a more direct side. Yıldız, on the other hand, has the potential of a future Ballon d'Or winner. Special combination of attributes. He's only 20, he'll get stronger.

Playing similar to Martinelli but being a lot better than him would make him an ideal signing. If Martinelli had Yıldız's finesse in finishing and his ability to get through tight spaces, we wouldn't be thinking about a LW signing right now.

I don't really agree that he plays similar to Martinelli anyway. Yıldız is a lot more keen to play one-twos, get central, and look for goals that way. He's not a speed merchant like Martinelli, either, much more of a finesse player. The only thing they have in common aside from being right footed LWs is their directness.

We were saying the same thing about Martinelli when he was 21-22 ...

Some even rated Martinelli better than Saka!

And let's not get carried away with attackers from Serie A.

There are really a handfull attackers from Serie A who made it in EPL
Hojlund
Zirkzee
Zaniolo
Scamacca

Furthermore, players who were done in the EPL still managed to perform for Italian clubs:
Lukaku
Mkhiki
Giroud
Abraham
Pulisic
Mctominay

I would be very cautious buying midfielders and attackers from Serie A ...

 

[Trilly]

Yildiz isn’t a winger really, more a SS.

Are you just saying this? Because pretty much every clip I see is of him starting on the LW.

My ideal LW would be more of a touchline pacey guy, Nico Williams and Leao types but Yildiz’s ceiling looks high enough that I’d move on from that.

No idea what Arteta’s ideal LW profile is either now. Based on him choosing Trossard quite consistently maybe a Yildiz type is exactly what he wants.

 

[MikelHadADream]

Are you just saying this? Because pretty much every clip I see is of him starting on the LW.

My ideal LW would be more of a touchline pacey guy, Nico Williams and Leao types but Yildiz’s ceiling looks high enough that I’d move on from that.

No idea what Arteta’s ideal LW profile is either now. Based on him choosing Trossard quite consistently maybe a Yildiz type is exactly what he wants.

With Gyok at 9, I think you need a more ball dominant/ball to feet LW.

I can't say I've watched this guy much. But he is obviously highly rated, young and seems to be that type of wide player. Can't complain when the club target those types of players.

 

[CannonBals]

We were saying the same thing about Martinelli when he was 21-22 ...

Some even rated Martinelli better than Saka!

I was on of those.
Even today in terms of raw attributes Martinelli has many things that Saka lacks.
Its just that his finishing regressed and his decision making never actually improved.
Saka is Saka because of his decision making but he is an outlier. Generally decision making improves with age. Never actually happened with Martinelli.
Also I think Arteta has made him a bit more risk averse which for a player of his profile is Kryptonite

 

[Mudi]

I was on of those.
Even today in terms of raw attributes Martinelli has many things that Saka lacks.
Its just that his finishing regressed and his decision making never actually improved.
Saka is Saka because of his decision making but he is an outlier. Generally decision making improves with age. Never actually happened with Martinelli.
Also I think Arteta has made him a bit more risk averse which for a player of his profile is Kryptonite

Our game totally changed since 2023 (once we got Ødegaard)

Before, our striker (Lacazette/Jesus) was playing closer to the midfield, coming to the ball instead of keeping opposition backline as far as possible. This allowed Saka and Martinelli to drift more to the center, allowing them to make runs between full back and central defenders. On top ESR was not a playmaker and did not require the ball as much as Ødegaard does.

Once we got Ødegaard, we changed our style of play. Asking our strikers to sit deeper into opposition half and asking our wingers to stretch the field as much as possible. This created more space in midfield and Ødegaard could dictate the game from there. This change suited Saka better as he is (as you mentioned) a much better decision making player than Martinelli. Martinelli suffered a lot because his weaknesses get exposed with this style of play.

I fear Yildiz is the same, meaning keeping him on the sideline and to create from there, he will be limited. He is a player that needs to roam from midfield to the left to the center. And Arteta does not like that and thus for me that makes Semenyo a better fit. He is a player similar to Saka than Martinelli while Yildiz is similar to Martinelli.

 

[Batman]

We were saying the same thing about Martinelli when he was 21-22 ...

Some even rated Martinelli better than Saka!

And let's not get carried away with attackers from Serie A.

There are really a handfull attackers from Serie A who made it in EPL
Hojlund
Zirkzee
Zaniolo
Scamacca

Furthermore, players who were done in the EPL still managed to perform for Italian clubs:
Lukaku
Mkhiki
Giroud
Abraham
Pulisic
Mctominay

I would be very cautious buying midfielders and attackers from Serie A ...

He's from the Bayern Munich academy. Talent is talent but if you're trying to suggest that he's some Serie A product as a means of discrediting him, that's inaccurate. He spent a decade in Bayern's academy.

 

[Mudi]

He's from the Bayern Munich academy. Talent is talent but if you're trying to suggest that he's some Serie A product as a means of discrediting him, that's inaccurate. He spent a decade in Bayern's academy.

So that makes him what?

He did learn most at Juve, starting week in week out for them. He has developed the player he is because of Juve. And he is showing his promise in the Serie A...

 

[Batman]

So that makes him what?

He did learn most at Juve, starting week in week out for them. He has developed the player he is because of Juve. And he is showing his promise in the Serie A...

It makes him a product of the Bayern academy. Are you illiterate? Fire both brain cells together and understand that your characterization of him as someone who has never shown quality outside Serie A is inaccurate when he was at the best academy in Germany for a decade.