Kia Joorabchian's Transfer Targets: January 2020

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by American_Gooner, Dec 17, 2019.

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Which area of the pitch is the biggest priority to improve in January?

Poll closed Jan 30, 2020.
  1. Full-back

    3.4%
  2. Centre-back

    49.7%
  3. Central Midfield

    45.3%
  4. Attack

    1.7%
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  1. Furious

    Furious Xhaka Propagandist

    Yeah you can, but given how often the recipe for success seems to change according to the preferred narrative on here, we'll get nowhere. :lol:

    Buying within the league is expensive AF. we're way off squad building wise to buy that ready made world class player to put us up a level. ManU are a good example of that.

    If we want to buy within the league, we firstly need to look within our own team, and look to improve with what we have and establish a core of what we realistically can use for the next couple of years. Perfect timing with our new manager. After that we can slowly start adding pieces, and hopefully eventually our own Van Dijk.
     
  2. pigge

    pigge Wishes Wrestling Fans Liked Him

    Yes i know. Thats what was Said in the article. Youve missed the entire discussion i suppose?
     
  3. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Knows a guy who knows an ITK at Bristol Trusted

    Those other approaches you’re talking about are flavour of the month fads.

    A transfer policy like Liverpool isn’t revolutionary. It’s the model how all non petro clubs should operate. Good teams have done it for years, except we’ve gone away from that years ago.

    They’ve bought players who’ve been undervalued and saved money for their main targets. When they couldn’t get van Dijk they didn’t panic and buy some 3rd rate CB, they waited Southampton out.

    When Vardy turned us down we ended up panicking and wasting money on Lucas Perez.
     
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  4. Goonger

    Goonger Active Member

    Get what your saying but using Vardy isn't a good example, as Klopp knew that Van Dijk wanted the move so could wait, or up the offer to a level acceptable to Southampton.

    We got knocked back by Vardy, so had to find someone willing to come.
     
  5. Slartibartfast

    Slartibartfast CIES Loyalist

    But it's not all about Van Dijk and players of his ilk. It can be role players such as Henderson or Wijnaldum. Not every player you buy has to be a world class player. Sometimes it makes more sense to spend on a player who is proven in the league than to throw money at a Mustafi or an Elneny.

    I realize it was an extremely unpopular rumor around here at the time, but when Arsenal bought Mustafi they could have had Jonny Evans for half the price. Leicester City ended up getting him in 2018 for £3.5 million (most Arsenal fans didn't want him even at that price). Now look how well he's playing for Leicester. He's better than what Arsenal has. Chelsea got Kante for way less than what Arsenal paid for Xhaka in the same window. Mane cost Liverpool about twice what Arsenal paid for Lucas Perez that summer, but who got the better bang for their buck?

    You have to look for the right players wherever you find them. Just saying "Premier League players are too expensive" is too simplistic and limiting. If you can find the right players within the league and use them to build your squad, you're ahead of the game. You're also playing the odds. Fans love the big names and often tend to underrate those who play for lesser teams or aren't as well known (Liverpool was laughed at for buying Wijnaldum), but the league can be fertile ground for transfers if you know what you're doing.
     
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  6. Furious

    Furious Xhaka Propagandist

    I didn't say we shouldn't buy at all within the league, did I?

    Easy to look back now and compare a successful team with an unsuccessful one.

    Besides players like Wijnaldum are still nothing special, they're a part of something bigger that Klopp has build over a couple of years now. Easily replaceable by Milner/Ox/whatever. Even without Fabinho they just go on about thier business.

    A player like Henderson could easily be found within our own squad. As I said, we have new manager, and it will take time to build a great squad, let's give him a couple of years, support him and see where it gets us.
     
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  7. bingobob

    bingobob Fan of Technicians Who Show Great Character

    Nobody has said that. And from my point I've said it may help us bringing in players that will hit the ground running not that it would be a silver bullet and cure all our ills of which there are many.

    Buying from within the league is harder than it has been because relegation is so expensive. Hence the demand for big fees from clubs who may be selling a player with the potential to keep them in the league thus recouping their fee many times over.

    Fwiw our best signing this season was Martinelli a 7m signing from Brazil. Not the 70m winger or the 25m British based player (although Tierney will show his value)
     
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  8. Dial Square 1886

    Dial Square 1886 Active Member

    Very good post.

    People crying when we were linked with Milner after City as well.

    Would have been rock solid for us.
     
  9. roz

    roz Well-Known Member

    Unbelievably underrated player, possibly Englands biggest waste of talent.
     
  10. Gunner-Union

    Gunner-Union Well-Known Member


    Think a scholes was tbh
    Gazza was the most talented Englishman Ive seen In my lifetime
     
  11. Tourbillion

    Tourbillion Angry 24/7

    Darius Vassell.
     
  12. Highbury_2006

    Highbury_2006 Village Idiot

    8 days left and the despicable w@nker Raul Sanllehi and his worthless friend Edu hasnt done anything to make the squad better. Get both of them out of the club.

    Thist thread is a boring mess right now btw.
     
  13. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    Nah, I think that's Michael Carrick. Carrick literally never played in any important games even when he was racking up the PL's for United, winning a CL, reaching two other CL finals as United's main midfielder for about a decade. Never seen such a waste of a talent, meanwhile successive England managers were more worried about trying to play Lampard and Gerrard in a double pivot together.
     
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  14. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Knows a guy who knows an ITK at Bristol Trusted

    All the managers bottled the Lampard-Gerrard issue. Could only really play one.

    A midfield three of Hargreaves/Carrick/Lampard had the perfect balance.
     
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  15. Gooner416

    Gooner416 Well-Known Member

    So I think there's a balance to be struck between foreign and domestic talent (obviously we have a quota to meet). I think rather than jealousy and envy or opportunistic which I believe you to be alluding, I think we all want this club to be objective and win again. Making observations off these different elements and encouraging this club to act and frankly can you blame that? We had baldy saying we were going to the Bayern Munich of England and we've been pedestrian ever since.
     
  16. Gooner416

    Gooner416 Well-Known Member

    Agreed. I feel we definitely have been a lot more reactionary than responsive in our approach.
     
  17. Gooner416

    Gooner416 Well-Known Member

    Should've played for Canada. :mad:
     
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  18. roz

    roz Well-Known Member

    Scholes is probably the standout choice but for me James Milner is the complete player. Scholes had limitations, couldn’t tackle, poor in the air which he made up for easily being exceptional in almost every other area.
    Milner can do it all, reckon you could play him anywhere other than GK and he’d be excellent.
    Not a single weakness in his game.
     
  19. Trilly

    Trilly The John Cross of Ilford

    Was anybody actually expecting January business?

    I wasn't. It's a terrible market.
     
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  20. yousif_arsenal

    yousif_arsenal King of Twitter Rumours Moderator

    Yea not really surprising teams not willing to sell any of thier players unless they desperately want to leave
     
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