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GunnerBP

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Definitely agree on the automatic starter bit. But you have to look at the competition. We'd only have two natural wingers in Bailey/Nelson whilst the others are strikers or attacking midfielders. Mhki, PEA and Lacazette look woeful on the wing so I wouldn't trust them. I reckon Wenger will somehow force one of the strikers onto the wing with Mkhi playing tho which is the wrong way about it.

Yeah, Bailey is definitely the only specialist for the wing, but Wenger rarely plays wing specialists on the wing.

I'd expect Mkhi to get minutes on the wing and I could see him playing PEA and Laca on the wing with one of them at CF, but that only applies if we are playing 433.

With a 343 Özil takes up one of the wing spots too.

One of the best things about the PEA and Mkhi signings is that it will allow us to change formations and rotate players. Unfortunately, these are two things that Wenger has never been good at.

PEA and Laca would make a great forward pairing and we could have a diamond midfield with Özil, Ramsey, Wilshere, and Xhaka.

I think Bailey is good enough to start for us, but if we want to be a top team, and top teams rotate players and change formations, then he definitely can't be an "automatic" starter.

Out of this potential front six, PEA, Laca, Mkhi, Özil, Bailey, Ramsey, Wilshere, and Xhaka are good enough to start every match, but at least two of them will need to be on the bench.
 
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kraphtous

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What do you mean he's a 100m player? Like that's what he could be worth, or that's what he's already worth?

I might be wrong, but I don't predict he'll be on the Mbappe/Dembele level yet by the summer. I think he'll be a hot prospect that you might have to shell out around 50m for, but not 100m. Anyway, in real terms, he's nowhere near worth 100m yet. There's no patience in football anymore.
I mean that’s how much he’s worth to Leverkusen and that’s really the only thing that matters. How much Arsenal or other clubs value him is irrelevant.
 

HBL

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This is certainly a transfer I could get excited about, unfortunately unless we sign him now, I think there will be bigger teams after him in the summer.
 

kraphtous

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This isn't Real Madrid or Dortmund. They're Leverkusen, he'll go for 40 - 60m
Maybe a couple of years later if he doesn’t quite reach his potential but as of right now and the coming summer, nothing short of €100m will get him. You’ll see.

I can see Chelsea going for it if Hazard leaves for Real Madrid.
 

Crocrodile

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Leverkusen's price is around 50M£.
They aren't a force in the market.

Bailey doesn't have the 100M resume.
I look for the deal being closer to Gabriel Jesus, a bit higher due to inflation and european experience.

One must remember, Dembele set the Ligue 1 on fire, then played great in Dortmund and secured à transfer to Barcelona at a similar age Bailey is going to be making his move to a stronger side, if he does it now or in the summer.

As some have suggested, Nelson on loan as an immediate replacement + 50-60M£ should do it.
 
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SingmeasongSong

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50m gets him sure as hell in this window.

Leverkusen chairman even said everyone has a price as they are no Bayern. We are talking BUNDESLIGA, best place to get value for money in an already crazy football world where money talks.

However, as he will probably be selected as best player of the season he won't be short of top class clubs trying for him in the summer.
 

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Yeah, Bailey is definitely the only specialist for the wing, but Wenger rarely plays wing specialists on the wing.

I'd expect Mkhi to get minutes on the wing and I could see him playing PEA and Laca on the wing with one of them at CF, but that only applies if we are playing 433.

With a 343 Özil takes up one of the wing spots too.

One of the best things about the PEA and Mkhi signings is that it will allow us to change formations and rotate players. Unfortunately, these are two things that Wenger has never been good at.

PEA and Laca would make a great forward pairing and we could have a diamond midfield with Özil, Ramsey, Wilshere, and Xhaka.

I think Bailey is good enough to start for us, but if we want to be a top team, and top teams rotate players and change formations, then he definitely can't be an "automatic" starter.

Out of this potential front six, PEA, Laca, Mkhi, Özil, Bailey, Ramsey, Wilshere, and Xhaka are good enough to start every match, but at least two of them will need to be on the bench.
Rarely will you see me defend Wenger but he actually used to be very good at rotating players. The squads from 2000-2005 were heavily rotated. Guys like Kanu and Wiltord were getting plenty of starts for example. The difference back then was that we had incredible squad depth and balance because as a pair Dein and Wenger were great at identifying and procuring exactly what was needed. It's much easier to rotate when you have basically 2 starting caliber players for every position which was our reality back then. How long ago that seems now. :(
 

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Reading the first page...is he really that good? If that’s the case then it’s extremly unlikely we sign him. Too much competition.

Those who have watched him...Is he better than Sane? If not is he better than Sane was in Germany?
 
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Bailey (Jamaica), Pulisic (USA), and Lozano (Mexico) are all in CONCACAF. Most say Bailey is the better of the three and is pulling away.
 

Slartibartfast

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Bailey (Jamaica), Pulisic (USA), and Lozano (Mexico) are all in CONCACAF. Most say Bailey is the better of the three and is pulling away.

Bailey refuses to play for Jamaica though, even though he's not eligible to play for anyone else. He may wait to gain eligibility for a European country (which would take years). But he did say it was his dream to play in England. Maybe he'll play for England. :D

http://jablogz.com/2018/01/baileys-dream-is-to-play-in-england/
 

al-Ustaadh

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Bailey refuses to play for Jamaica though, even though he's not eligible to play for anyone else. He may wait to gain eligibility for a European country (which would take years). But he did say it was his dream to play in England. Maybe he'll play for England. :D

http://jablogz.com/2018/01/baileys-dream-is-to-play-in-england/
Yeah, I know about his issue with the Jamaican National Team. He just wants to play for a country that will increase his profile. Given he's gone from Belgium to Germany to now possibly England at the age of 20/21, it'll be some time before he can play for another country. If he does end up in England sooner rather than later, then it could be England.
 

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Yeah, I know about his issue with the Jamaican National Team. He just wants to play for a country that will increase his profile. Given he's gone from Belgium to Germany to now possibly England at the age of 20/21, it'll be some time before he can play for another country. If he does end up in England sooner rather than later, then it could be England.

The guy's not being advised well if his plan is to play for someone else. By the time he actually qualifies for citizenship of another country he'll have wasted years.

I sort of understand his thinking, but he's young and I think once he's older he'd come to regret not just representing Jamaica and making the most of it. Not everyone is the citizen of a successful footballing nation, but you can be the hero of a less successful one.

George Best is my hero and the hero of every person from Northern Ireland. By today's standards he probably could have found a way to represent England since he moved to Manchester in his teens, but he wouldn't have achieved the status he did in N. I.

If a player like Bailey continuously rejected Jamaica and spent years trying to qualify for the national team of a more successful country, I'd be pretty dismayed. It would set a bad trend.
 

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The guy's not being advised well if his plan is to play for someone else. By the time he actually qualifies for citizenship of another country he'll have wasted years.

I sort of understand his thinking, but he's young and I think once he's older he'd come to regret not just representing Jamaica and making the most of it. Not everyone is the citizen of a successful footballing nation, but you can be the hero of a less successful one.

George Best is my hero and the hero of every person from Northern Ireland. By today's standards he probably could have found a way to represent England since he moved to Manchester in his teens, but he wouldn't have achieved the status he did in N. I.

If a player like Bailey continuously rejected Jamaica and spent years trying to qualify for the national team of a more successful country, I'd be pretty dismayed. It would set a bad trend.

Tell that to his Dad, who's his agent.
 

Slartibartfast

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Yeah, I know about his issue with the Jamaican National Team. He just wants to play for a country that will increase his profile. Given he's gone from Belgium to Germany to now possibly England at the age of 20/21, it'll be some time before he can play for another country. If he does end up in England sooner rather than later, then it could be England.

Seems like I read the other day (but don't quote me on this) that he could have become eligible for Belgium in another three years, but it would be seven for Germany. Not sure how long if he went to England.
 

dashsnow17

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Tell that to his Dad, who's his agent.

Aye that's what I'd tell his Dad. I'd tell him, "Do you want your client to only start playing senior international football at the age of 27 or whatever just because you don't want to play for Jamaica? Do you think your client will be pleased with your services when he realises how much commercial and sponsorship money he might lose out on because of this?"
 

dashsnow17

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Bailey has huge commercial potential as a result of his talent and the fact he's Jamaican, which extends to his friendship with Bolt. Obviously Bolt has had far more success and of course Jamaican sprinting is very high-profile, but his commercial success is partly built on him being the hero of a nation.

If I was Bailey's agent, i'd be saying to him that he might not win a World Cup, but he'll get plenty of accolades, money and status by playing for Jamaica.

If he chose to play for England, his commercial potential would plummet.
 
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