Let's all laugh at Man Utd: That’s Amorim

[Dokaka]

Series of disagreements and bad decisions it seems. He wasn't in favour of Amorim and was behind Ten Hag staying.

Knight him.

 

[Batman]

Is the Atletico Madrid guy the genius that paid 100m for Joao Felix? Are they genuinely going to repeat the 7 Hag era but with players from the Portuguese league instead of the Dutch league? Can one of them be Fabio Vieira?

 

[Rasmi]

Ashworth had reservations about switching to Amorim’s 3-4-3 formation as he wanted a consistent style, regardless of who was in the dugout, to aid with long-term recruitment strategy, which was a source of tension."

This is from the guardian. If true I think he’s right. To completely change transfer strategy for a manager who plays different formation than most is crazy

 

[Batman]

Ashworth had reservations about switching to Amorim’s 3-4-3 formation as he wanted a consistent style, regardless of who was in the dugout, to aid with long-term recruitment strategy, which was a source of tension."

This is from the guardian. If true I think he’s right. To completely change transfer strategy for a manager who plays different formation than most is crazy

Yeah, recruiting specifically for a manager's niche system that is unproven outside of the Portuguese league is very dumb and should have been opposed. That's how you end up with players who flop and can't be sold. It's not like this guy has the resume of a Conte either where at least you've seen it for an extended period in the CL and Serie A. Going all in on this system is a terrible idea that will leave a mess for the next manager just like the mess 7 Hag has left for this one.

 

[db10_therza]

Yeah, recruiting specifically for a manager's niche system that is unproven outside of the Portuguese league is very dumb and should have been opposed. That's how you end up with players who flop and can't be sold. It's not like this guy has the resume of a Conte either where at least you've seen it for an extended period in the CL and Serie A. Going all in on this system is a terrible idea that will leave a mess for the next manager just like the mess 7 Hag has left for this one.

In general I agree with this but just to point that Chelsea won at least one PL playing 343 so it can definitely work here. But it’s niche and therefore a risk.

 

[Batman]

In general I agree with this but just to point that Chelsea won at least one PL playing 343 so it can definitely work here. But it’s niche and therefore a risk.

Yeah but that's why I specifically used Conte as my example because he had the resume prior to joining Chelsea to trust and cater to his ability to win in a proper league and go deep in the CL with that niche formation. Amorim doesn't have that sort of CV.

 

[A_G]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1866139252779548837

 

[Dokaka]

Yeah, recruiting specifically for a manager's niche system that is unproven outside of the Portuguese league

It's not too dissimilar to Alonso's 3-4-2-1 that steamrolled the Bundesliga tbf. It's a pretty popular setup that's quickly growing in use among the newer generation of managers. Inzaghi also uses a variant of it with Inter.

Also not sure the type of players required is that restrictive. The main thing is you need proper athletes both in midfield and at FB as they have to cover an immense amount of ground quickly and often. That and a proper distributor in defense but most teams want that these days anyway.

I'm personally a big fan of Amorim's style and I think it'll be very successful once he gets his players, the problem is this current Man Utd squad is both **** and very poorly constructed to play this way with their best players being square pegs etc.

 

[Batman]

It's not too dissimilar to Alonso's 3-4-2-1 that steamrolled the Bundesliga tbf. It's a pretty popular setup that's quickly growing in use among the newer generation of managers. Inzaghi also uses a variant of it with Inter.

Also not sure the type of players required is that restrictive. The main thing is you need proper athletes both in midfield and at FB as they have to cover an immense amount of ground quickly and often. That and a proper distributor in defense but most teams want that these days anyway.

I'm personally a big fan of Amorim's style and I think it'll be very successful once he gets his players, the problem is this current Man Utd squad is both **** and very poorly constructed to play this way with their best players being square pegs etc.

The point remains that the system itself is unproven in the Premier League outside of one very short spell of success with a vastly more experienced manager in England and thus recruiting specifically for that system when you're a club that already has a bunch of dead wood and has committed to massive outlays for the last manager who you tried to cater specifically to is not wise.

It's far more prudent to focus on what your identity is going to be as a club first rather than gamble on a manager totally unproven at the highest level who already seems to be rattled by his media responsibilities, particularly when you're already in a position of dealing with the leftovers from going all in on players to suit the last unsuccessful manager. This system and its variants may be gaining popularity elsewhere. The Premier League is not elsewhere. They look to be repeating the previous mistake immediately.

 

[TornadoTed]

You only need to look at Wolves to see that Ashworth is right. Their squad was built for Nuno's specific 3-4-3 system and every manager who has proceeded him tried other formations and always struggled and had to revert back to a 3-4-3 but without being able to quite nail it like Nuno did.

 

[Rasmi]

Rashford put up for sale. We all know we gonna go for him.

 

[grange]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1866139252779548837

@db10_therza just fell to his knees in a Tesco

 

[db10_therza]

@db10_therza just fell to his knees in a Tesco

Christmas Parties are haraam

 

[A_G]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1866534170903847260

 

[Rex Stone]

@Rex Stone your transfers haven't been that good right?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1865798408931512355

I’m pretty high on him tbh. He’s made some really smart buys with a couple of stinkers.

We end up with a few büms but that’s basically because of our dodgy relationships with agents and he gets guys like Lenglet on ridiculously good terms for us.

Overall he’s kept a strong squad together each year and added good pieces without us losing ground. Signings like Suarez or Griezmann II were genius.

Simeone probably the bigger problem at this point.

 

[MauveGunner]

 

[A_G]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867201488369635399

This is like @db10_therza five minutes after becoming mod

 

[GoonerJeeves]

Prospective managers being adviced by Scottish agent before taking on the Man Utd job.

 

[Blood on the Tracks]

Ashworth may have been trash but he had a pretty decent record before going there.

Probably deserved the sack but I bet Man Utd will like all the recent poor decisions on him as a scapegoat.

 

[Juan Matas Beard]

Ashworth may have been trash but he had a pretty decent record before going there.

Probably deserved the sack but I bet Man Utd will like all the recent poor decisions on him as a scapegoat.

He's good at what he does no doubt, comes across intelligent but think he was stifled by the system we have. Does concern me how hands on INEOS are, they need to let the football brains run the show.

Nonetheless some of the things about Southgate did me think he was a clown.