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Let's all laugh at Man Utd: Wally at the Wheel

Discussion in 'Football Talk' started by Hunta, Dec 7, 2011.

  1. Toby Andrl

    Toby Andrl Part Time Stuttgart Fan Trusted

    That's what I'm saying, though. Dortmund is in no need to sell right now, especially if prices are down/United want to haggle. Sancho is on a longterm contract, it's an unusual market this summer and as you say next year there might be way more clubs interested and willing to pay which will drive the price up instead of down like this summer.

    I guess if United agree the 120m and Sancho pushes for a move, it might well happen, but don't think Dortmund are willing to lower their asking price as next summer there might ensue a bidding war for him and they don't need cash right now. It's better for them to keep their team together for next season instead of opting for the money rain.
     
  2. UnitedBeard

    UnitedBeard Active Member

    What you said is ''it's off''.

    The reality is that Dortmund will sell if the offer is good.

    Sancho is United primary target, when a player who wants to leaves becomes our primary target, we will secure the deal just like with Maguire & Bruno.
     
  3. Toby Andrl

    Toby Andrl Part Time Stuttgart Fan Trusted

    yeah, not so sure. Currently definitely in the off camp. Also those reports about player and club having agreed terms seem a bit premature, that's at least what's coming out from Germany right now.
     
  4. UnitedBeard

    UnitedBeard Active Member

    No it's not premature. United talked to Gabriel's agent about the contract but didn't talk to Lille. Not the first time United spoke to player's agent about the contract before the club just to estimate the demand of the player & the agent first. Both United & Sancho are in agreement with the initial contract term.

    Maguire was in the Leicester training game & played their pre-season and he joined us. Transfer window just open two weeks ago and will be close in October not August.
     
  5. Trilly

    Trilly The John Sauce Of Ilford

    You just sound like you’re trying to convince yourself at this rate.

    You have no leverage, you’re paying at least 100M or he’s staying. No cut price deal because of that secret renewal.
     
  6. UnitedBeard

    UnitedBeard Active Member

    Not sure where I expect the cut price deal. Did we sign Pogba, Lukaku, Maguire with cut price deal?

    End of the day United is trying to negotiate to get a good deal, if it's not working out then they will end up paying because that's what we do when we make the player as our no 1 target.
     
  7. MD3 Gunner

    MD3 Gunner Vicente Fan

    I saw someone on twitter yesterday say, take away Brunos penalties and he's literally Torreira at #10 hahahahaha :lol::lol:
     
  8. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Vinai Venkatesham Stan



    If I speak I am in big, big trouble.. yikes.
     
  9. MD3 Gunner

    MD3 Gunner Vicente Fan

    You rate him ?
     
  10. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Vinai Venkatesham Stan

    He's a tidy player but that video is hideous.
     
  11. MD3 Gunner

    MD3 Gunner Vicente Fan

    He's good obviously but not world class imo at least not yet, Pogba deserves all the praise he's getting. 'Portugese magnifo'? Not sure
     
  12. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Has Never Seen Our New Signings Play

    Could you convert Wan Bissaka into a CB?

    Martial looks excellent in the middle now, can hold the ball, he’s strong, his link up is probably the best in the league, going past players for fun, team player etc. Thought Utd needed a striker, maybe Jimenez but I don’t see the point now.
     
  13. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Vinai Venkatesham Stan

    No, he's rubbish on the ball and in the air.
     
  14. UnitedBeard

    UnitedBeard Active Member

    Bissaka strength is in his dribble, tackle, anticipation & 1v1 situation. His crossings gotten better but still no where near top. However his weakness is that he's not good to keep possession when under pressure & his passing ability is awful so he doesn't have the ability to be ball playing CB. And his defending positioning isn't known to be very good. Don't think he should go into CB at this moment.

    Martial will be our regular striker and probably our POTY this season, he's probably the one look more matured in his decision making compare to Rashford & Greenwood. The Jimenez rumour recently was fake.
     
  15. Riou

    Riou Non-Stop Nostalgia

    @Tir Na Nog



    ...being compared to Cantona now by the media :lol:
     
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  16. Tir Na Nog

    Tir Na Nog In Big Trouble If He Speaks

    Laughable stuff, sums up the decline of English football tho that they're putting this guy on such a pedestal.
     
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  17. Juan Matas Beard

    Juan Matas Beard Friendly Mancunian facial hair

    I don't think he can dribble to be honest mate. He's one of the most awkward looking players with the ball on his feet. There's a massive difference when it comes to being on the ball compared to his off the ball talents.

    He's still young at 22 and can learn how to cross and improve his passing technique, but I've never seen a player develop dribbling skills from his starting point, it's usually apparent when they are young and it's a matter of if they have that ability or not. He does the ability to make that half step and flash a quick cross but very rare we see him get to those positions.

    In hindsight, I understand signing him with his defensive talent but I'm not sure he supports the RW enough and it's already a spot where we don't have a natural crosser in. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Laird competes with him soon.
     
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  18. UnitedBeard

    UnitedBeard Active Member

    Bissaka dribbling isn't Sancho or Martial type of dribble that relies on pure control. However he can beat his man with his dribble.

    Bissaka has 1.5 per game average of dribble successful this season, 1.7 in 18/19, 1.9 in 17/18.
    Trent only had 0.6 this season while Walker only had 0.8.

    Bissaka's problem is his defensive awareness & his ability on the ball when on possession under pressure. He doesn't have composure when you press him or give him no space. He can still beat his man, after all he used to be winger when he was in academy.
     
  19. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    Other than Sancho what signings do they need in order to compete?
     
  20. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Has Never Seen Our New Signings Play

    Compete for what? Big trophies? CB, wingbacks, Striker, more than anything though, a new manager.

    They also need to sort out Pogba. Ole is using him like Moussa Sissoko.
     
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