Life After Emery Begins

[Rex Stone]

Mourinho won't take a short term deal and I think it's pretty obvious what his deflections will be if things go sour *cough* blame Wenger *cough*.

Sorry, but can't help but be somewhat emotional about this. Hard no for me.

The main knocks on Mourinho are pretty big ones.

He doesn’t enjoy playing young players, wants a certain player profile which is usually mid to late 20’s work horses and likes to bench big players out of the blue often creating friction.

Considering how most of these would apply to our squad I think he’d be a poor appointment, things would be getting heated between him and the board almost immediately.

Best case scenario is he takes a short deal and uses us to get his dying career back on track and leverage himself a big club this summer or next.

 

[RacingPhoton]

Not sure why people want Mourinho when most people are already complaining about how boring our football has become.
Mourinho just like Wenger, is past it. There are two important factors for any manager. Tactics and player management. He may be good at tactics even if it is boring. But his player management is so poor. Modern players are whole different beasts to manage. It's hard to get them play for you. A **** like Mourinho is never going to get the players' support.

 

[Preacher]

Give the wheel to Thierry Henry.

 

[GDeep™]

Why do people keep saying that everyone is on the back of Emery because he’s negative? If he was negative and we were controlling games then there would be no cause for complaint - issue is that Emery is clueless, this team can’t do anything.

We’re not defensive, hard to beat, hard to break down etc.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

Why do people keep saying that everyone is on the back of Emery because he’s negative? If he was negative and we were controlling games then there would be no cause for complaint - issue is that Emery is clueless, this team can’t do anything.

We’re not defensive, hard to beat, hard to break down etc.

Spot on, we're arguably worse defensively than under Wenger. For me the issue isn't about defensive football at all it's just we look disjointed and can't do either right really. If we had a pragmatic manager who made us actually hard to beat and not concede 31 shots to Watford then I wouldn't be worried about how pretty the football is.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

The main knocks on Mourinho are pretty big ones.

He doesn’t enjoy playing young players, wants a certain player profile which is usually mid to late 20’s work horses and likes to bench big players out of the blue often creating friction.

Considering how most of these would apply to our squad I think he’d be a poor appointment, things would be getting heated between him and the board almost immediately.

Best case scenario is he takes a short deal and uses us to get his dying career back on track and leverage himself a big club this summer or next.

He brought a 21 year old Özil to Madrid, a 22 year old Di Maria, used Alonso as his holding midfielder, put faith in Varane. At Chelsea he signed Fabregas to play deep in midfield, had Hazard-Oscar-Willian behind Costa. Two teams hardly filled with work horses. He also sanctioned the deal to bring Pogba to United. Even Matic hardly goes running about all over the pitch, he's usual used more for his ability to play a good first pass in terms of setting up counter attacks.

Also I want us to integrate youth as much as possible, but the ones who're actually ready for first team football, he'd probably rate Guendouzi quite highly for example.

If we're gonna say his knocks are pretty big ones, well how about we look at the pluses. Because they're MASSIVE. 2 CL titles with Porto and Inter. If he can do that with them he can definitely improve us. He's won league titles in 4 different countries, he's won trophies everywhere he's gone. He gets teams playing lethal counter attacking football and is a big game specialist. In the 17/18 season United beat all their top 6 rivals.

For me with Mourinho tho is he has to be backed otherwise he loses interest, the fire isn't there if he doesn't think he can compete. But tbh, if we're not prepared to back a manager and give him the players he wants then we might as well just give up.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

People need to get over the Wenger-Mourinho thing, they're clearly on good terms. If Wenger is the fan of Arsenal as he says he is then surely he'd back Mourinho if he wants to see us win trophies because Mourinho would be the best manager we could get who'd do that. For me if Mourinho wants the job then you give it to him and you back him. Otherwise we may stop pretending to be a big club.

I've seen enough projects, and planning for the future. I also see Antonio Conte go into three jobs and hit the ground running straight away. I want that. If we can't get Mourinho or Allegri then fair enough gamble with Freddie, but if either of those two actually want the job then we have to go for them. It'd be a serious lack of ambition not to.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

No thanks to Mourinho. He is not the right fit for our club.

 

[Riou]

He brought a 21 year old Özil to Madrid, a 22 year old Di Maria, used Alonso as his holding midfielder, put faith in Varane. At Chelsea he signed Fabregas to play deep in midfield, had Hazard-Oscar-Willian behind Costa. Two teams hardly filled with work horses. He also sanctioned the deal to bring Pogba to United. Even Matic hardly goes running about all over the pitch, he's usual used more for his ability to play a good first pass in terms of setting up counter attacks.

Also I want us to integrate youth as much as possible, but the ones who're actually ready for first team football, he'd probably rate Guendouzi quite highly for example.

If we're gonna say his knocks are pretty big ones, well how about we look at the pluses. Because they're MASSIVE. 2 CL titles with Porto and Inter. If he can do that with them he can definitely improve us. He's won league titles in 4 different countries, he's won trophies everywhere he's gone. He gets teams playing lethal counter attacking football and is a big game specialist. In the 17/18 season United beat all their top 6 rivals.

For me with Mourinho tho is he has to be backed otherwise he loses interest, the fire isn't there if he doesn't think he can compete. But tbh, if we're not prepared to back a manager and give him the players he wants then we might as well just give up.

Kinda saved Joe Cole's career at Chelsea too.

 

[Ash10]

Give the wheel to Thierry Henry.

To get relegated?

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Another adventure for Sol Campbell. Heard he was appointed as Southend manager. Will be interesting to see what he can do!

Surely @Rex Banner will have the finger on the pulse for this one?

 

[al-Ustaadh]

One thing I’ve noticed is we’ve gone from being congested centrally in attack under Wenger to being congested on the wings in attack under Emery. Just ****ing bizarre.

 

[Rex Stone]

He brought a 21 year old Özil to Madrid, a 22 year old Di Maria, used Alonso as his holding midfielder, put faith in Varane. At Chelsea he signed Fabregas to play deep in midfield, had Hazard-Oscar-Willian behind Costa. Two teams hardly filled with work horses. He also sanctioned the deal to bring Pogba to United. Even Matic hardly goes running about all over the pitch, he's usual used more for his ability to play a good first pass in terms of setting up counter attacks.

Also I want us to integrate youth as much as possible, but the ones who're actually ready for first team football, he'd probably rate Guendouzi quite highly for example.

If we're gonna say his knocks are pretty big ones, well how about we look at the pluses. Because they're MASSIVE. 2 CL titles with Porto and Inter. If he can do that with them he can definitely improve us. He's won league titles in 4 different countries, he's won trophies everywhere he's gone. He gets teams playing lethal counter attacking football and is a big game specialist. In the 17/18 season United beat all their top 6 rivals.

For me with Mourinho tho is he has to be backed otherwise he loses interest, the fire isn't there if he doesn't think he can compete. But tbh, if we're not prepared to back a manager and give him the players he wants then we might as well just give up.

As much as you can go on about him being great for youth he should never live down shunting out Salah for Cuadrado, or promising KDB game time and selling him for a meagre fee in January only for him to go to break out big time the next year.

Let’s not forget selling Lukaku and replacing him with Loic Remy and Drogba’s corpse.

Also he fell out so badly with the Real squad Ramos took the p*ss out of him on the bench.

If we were getting pre-Real Mourinho then yeah I’d be interested. Now though I don’t know.

 

[<<reed>>]

I doubt we can afford to hire Mourinho, he's still too expensive.

 

[Notorious Big]

Life after Emery

 

[A_G]

The squad is actually in a similar situation to the one Mourinho took over in 2013 at Chelsea, with the base already there and just in need of fine tuning. He'd probably come in the summer and sign a CB to partner Saliba, a Xhaka replacement, a #10 and a LW to complete the side. Unlike at United when he had to make more drastic changes in order to get them to compete.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

As much as you can go on about him being great for youth he should never live down shunting out Salah for Cuadrado, or promising KDB game time and selling him for a meagre fee in January only for him to go to break out big time the next year.

Let’s not forget selling Lukaku and replacing him with Loic Remy and Drogba’s corpse.

Also he fell out so badly with the Real squad Ramos took the p*ss out of him on the bench.

If we were getting pre-Real Mourinho then yeah I’d be interested. Now though I don’t know.

I'd be more concerned about that if he didn't win the title after all that. He even said on Sunday after the Liverpool-United game sometimes players aren't good for certain managers and vice versa. Remy scored a few goals in their title winning season too. Salah was nowhere near the player he is now.

Also apparently KDB told Mourinho he wanted to leave so for Mourinho that was it, he doesn't want players who aren't committed. I'm not sure what happened with Lukaku but I think it was something similar, they've clearly made up since then I think Lukaku appreciates Mourinho more than he did as a youngster.

As for Madrid, who haven't their squad fallen out with? Ancelotti had problems in his final season there, they didn't give Benitez a chance, Zidane and Bale have/had issues he left and then came back. They had 3 managers last season.

 

[Notorious Big]

The squad is actually in a similar situation to the one Mourinho took over in 2013 at Chelsea, with the base already there and just in need of fine tuning. He'd probably come in the summer and sign a CB to partner Saliba, a Xhaka replacement, a #10 and a LW to complete the side. Unlike at United when he had to make more drastic changes in order to get them to compete.

He spent some big money at Utd,but expetations there is just too high for every manager.Still think that he could do better with players they had and with his reputation.He's just not good for long term solution.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

The squad is actually in a similar situation to the one Mourinho took over in 2013 at Chelsea, with the base already there and just in need of fine tuning. He'd probably come in the summer and sign a CB to partner Saliba, a Xhaka replacement, a #10 and a LW to complete the side. Unlike at United when he had to make more drastic changes in order to get them to compete.

Honestly our squad doesn't require that much fixing. He'd probably back himself to get the best out of Pepe, Torreira and Guendouzi seem like players he'd like, maybe even Willock. He got the best out of Özil before. Tierney and Bellerin are there for him, Leno in goals. We literally just need to make a few signings. We could even sell someone like Xhaka or Lacazette to get in some money if needs be. As long as we don't do what Woodward did and start dictating to him what position should be strengthened or tell him that we don't need a CB. Or do what Abramovich did and sell Cech behind his back. Just back him and he'll do his best.

 

[GoonerJeeves]

Appointing Mourinho on a short term deal would be fantastic. He’ll have a point to prove plus the players at his disposal are ideal for him.

I’m sure he’ll love having a lethal finisher like Aubameyang and the likes of Lacazette/Pepe. He’s also a massive fan of Özil too which is a major plus for all those Mesut fanboys.


It seems like he’d have a system in place for our front three.

In that studio he is just like Einstein talking to the DUP.