Life after Wenger | Ornstein: Arsenal set to appoint Unai Emery

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by SA Gunner, Oct 12, 2015.


Do you think Emery will get the club back on an upwards trajectory?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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  1. NEWMAN123

    NEWMAN123 Active Member

    I was originally in the Allegri camp but after much thinking there is only 1 optimal choice. A case could also be made for Simeone but the change of style could take a few seasons before we see the effects.

    The best choice would be Leonardo Jardim. Now let me explain why. First of all with the exception of Simeone he's a manager who's competing on a tight budget with mega money club(s). Jardim is also a manager who puts tactics above all.

    He has had to work with a shoe string budget while also developing some top tier talents. This would be almost identical to what a new manager would have to do here. Jardim has made Monaco one of the most dangerous attacking sides in Europe. When you look at his players compared to the big money clubs this is astonishing. We will never have the best players in Europe. So we need a manager who can create a deadly attack as well as sort out the defence with mostly average-above average players. Jardim is that guy.

    Jardim also is top of Ligue 1 with Monaco and they have been the best team in Ligue 1 arguably. We need a manager who can compete with the big money teams on a tight budget and Jardim is this guy.

    Another stat for you stat boys is that Monaco have played 28 games and have scored 82 goals :drool: So if you want a defensively drilled team that scores a shet load of goals even though they don't have the best players then Jardim is that guy. Do some research and you'll see for yourself that Jardim makes the most sense given that he'd be more familiar with what he needs to do here and that he's proving he can do it.

    Guys like Allegri have been managing at the top teams and I really think they'd struggle here because they won't be used to not managing the best team in the league. All in All we need a manager who can set us up against the bigger/better teams and win. Only Simeone and Jardim fit this mold IMO. Thanks for reading.
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  2. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    What the club has spent is just a fact. How is it an argument? :lol:
  3. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"


    I'd definitely add Favre to that list as well.
  4. _reed_

    _reed_ Active Member

    Wenger will piss over all your "best choises" and stay
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  5. FinnGooner

    FinnGooner Well-Known Member

    I now read them. They certainly bring another view on the topic. Good read, thanks. But the workshop link I posted is just one of many occasions I've noticed Allegri talking about individual players and their freedom/responsibility to "detect the flow of the game" and similiar obscure stuff. Usually that kind of talk means loose organization on the pitch.

    But maybe I'm wrong about Allegri. If he ever comes here, I'd certainly be happy to bewrong. One problem with Allegri is also the languange barrier. I know it hasn't stopped Conte or Ancelotti but it's always a challenge. That would be the case with Simeone and Jardim as well, though. That's one of the many reasons I'd prefer Tuchel. He might not have the CV just yet but I think he's a true talent who will have a vwry successful career.
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  6. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    RIP us? Kroenke Jr will end up being more influential than his father in deciding who takes over from Wenger.....
  7. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Knows a guy who knows an ITK at Bristol Trusted

    F*cking hell I take it back. If it's a choice between Henry and Koeman I'll have Koeman.

    The fact they're citing Zidane and Guardiola as why we should hire him is hilarious. The board is going to f*ck this up so badly. Guaranteed.
  8. field442

    field442 Hates Journalists Named James

    If they actually appointed Henry i think it would cause a bigger **** storm than the one you'd see if they were to allow Wenger to continue.
  9. GoonerJeeves

    GoonerJeeves Up The Terriers

    With all respect to Henry, and everything he did at the club as a player, how is he in any way qualified to be the manager of Arsenal FC?

    I just don't see the logic here.
  10. mm76

    mm76 Yer Da

    Unless they're planning for Wenger to stay as 'Director of Football' and that Henry will just be a puppet to (supposedly) keep the fans happy...
  11. Kingslayer

    Kingslayer Forza Milan

    A salary in proportion to managerial experience ;)
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  12. Trilly

    Trilly The John Cross of Ilford

    Your strawmen are getting boring.

    4th richest club in England 7th richest in Europe. The board are fine with the manager not making a team greater than the sum of its parts.

    In Europe the pressure is even less, 7th richest team in Europe but when was the last time we made it to the last 8?
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  13. Trilly

    Trilly The John Cross of Ilford

    Imagine if Henry turns out to be the next genius manager? Comes out of nowhere and guides us to a PL trophy and a CL semi-final in his first season (have to be realistic come on)

    The scenes.
  14. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    No not strawmen. This is the first year we reached 4th and yes he's failing.

    But last year we were 5th and in years gone by we were below Sp**s and Liverpool in squad cost. Wenger has always been better than the sum of parts up until this year.

    #selective memory
  15. Trilly

    Trilly The John Cross of Ilford

    Strawman was relating to the fact I said reduced pressure, yet you're attacking the point that he manages under no pressure?

    Are you going to deny that we've underachieved in Europe recently? We haven't tracked our resources at all in that competition. We were actually better in Europe when Wenger had less money.:lol:
  16. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Knows a guy who knows an ITK at Bristol Trusted

    Literally cannot put into words how sure I am that won't happen.
  17. Trilly

    Trilly The John Cross of Ilford

    Where were you when Barca put some guy called Guardiola in charge?!
  18. American_Gooner

    American_Gooner Not actually American. Unless Di Marzio says so. Moderator

    Henry becomes a huge success overnight and then leaves us for Barcelona again.
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  19. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Well-Known Member

    I would not be surprised if that happens really, I have always seen Henry as the ex-Wenger player with the most potential to be a world class manager. He was a highly influential and innovative striker during his day, it was he who popularized the purposely standing in an offside position without the ball tactics.

    But the manner he acted as if managing our youth team is beneath him does not impress me. I have a feeling that if he turns out to be the next genius manager he's not going to be staying with us for long.
  20. Rex Banter

    Rex Banter Knows a guy who knows an ITK at Bristol Trusted

    I was watching him inherit a team with Yaya, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, Puyol, Henry, Eto'o and some guy called Messi.

    Not sure if the likes of Giroud, Coquelin, Iwobi and Theo are on that level. Close though.
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