Ivan the Gooner
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Then we can have Xhaka frozen in carbonite like Han Solo?
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Lisandro Martinez
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Legend14
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Who is holding down the midfield when everyone bombs forward?
Partey, although likely hobbled from covering for everyone else, will be the most important player on the squad.
Maybe
You're wrong, no?
I always thought that technically superior sides do well against top sides but struggle against bottom sides who are there only to kick and push to get any sort of result.
SingmeasongSong
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Mad team this, even more so when you think about the competition.
Saliba most likely will bench one of the CBs at some point.
ESR might edge Vieira, Martinelli might at some point edge one of the attackers, .. then you have Tierney, Xhaka and young talented kids like Patino.
Not even considering Nketiah etc just yet.
HollandGooner
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Country: Netherlands
Player:Ødegaard
He is not a LB really have no clue why people will put him in that position. we just need to move on from Holding who is a disaster to happen with all respect. then we have 2 right footed CBS and 2 left footed CBS competition is healthy.
Tierney will always start in my opinion.
Tierney will always start in my opinion.
Don't think the intention is to have him bombing up and down the left wing. Something like this is probably the plan, with Martinez and Tomiyasu helping to create the overloads in midfield. It would let you play Vieira and Ødegaard together as well.
HollandGooner
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Country: Netherlands
Player:Ødegaard
Don't think the intention is to have him bombing up and down the left wing. Something like this is probably the plan, with Martinez and Tomiyasu helping to create the overloads in midfield. It would let you play Vieira and Ødegaard together as well.
I like the looks of it but what about Tierney? I really think he should play. ofcourse every opponent is different but it would be a waste to not play him. but anyway competition is healthy.
@Mods i am sorry to go off-topic.
Mitch
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It would odd to drop one of or the best LB in league. When you you consider that this guy can play CM and we are screaming out for 2 cms.
It might be harsh on Tierney but maybe they've decided they don't want to build a way of playing around a guy that is always injured for half the season. Just thinking back to last season Arteta didn't hesistate to keep Tierney out of the side as soon as Tavares had a few good performances, so i don't think he's fixated on the idea of Tierney having to be a starter.
Just the way i see it. I think Arteta would value a player who can help dominate possession more than a more traditional LB.
Barry
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I think it's because Gabriel was one of our best performers over the season as a whole so he would come in as second choice LCB. It doesn't seem like a position we'd spend north of £40m and besides that it seems like a tough sell to an Ajax and Argentine national team starter.
Tierney is brilliant most of the time when fit - it hurts me how underrated he is on here - but the flip side is that we suffer when he's out. I think the most logical conclusion is the one we've mostly reached that he is thought of as dual cover and competition for Gabriel & Tierney. Possibly even as a backup to Partey as well. I like that formation that @The_Playmaker posted above a lot FFIW. I don't think it's lightweight in midfield. With Tomi & Martinez inverting you've got three hard, strong tacklers who are quality on the ball. Width is a possible issue but I think you'd do well against a lot of teams.
Tierney will most likely be injured for half of the season, and it looks like we are looking at letting Nuno go and will keep Holding about. That tells me LM will see game time at LB.
He wouldnt be used as a traditional left back either, as others have said I think he'll move into midfield a lot. Actually think this may suit him best. He won't have the physical burden of being the sole DM, but when we have the ball we can take advantage of his world class passing skills. If anything I think we would get more from him in that sort of role.
SingmeasongSong
Right Sometimes
I think it makes sense to expect this.
We failed with a 3 at the back line-up not because it does not suit us in general, but because we had a few terrible players that just would not work with it.
If we get Raphinha and Martinez, we have so many perfect players for that system that I can hardly see us not going for it, if we sign Martinez
We failed with a 3 at the back line-up not because it does not suit us in general, but because we had a few terrible players that just would not work with it.
If we get Raphinha and Martinez, we have so many perfect players for that system that I can hardly see us not going for it, if we sign Martinez
Country: South Africa
Player:Nketiah
Good team setup, but you are disrupting the now telepathic combination play between Saka and Ødegaard by moving them apart like that. I expect them to remain together on one side, with a new combination being built on the other side.
Raphinha on the left can work as he is able to assist with cutbacks/crosses into the box, as well as use his right foot to strike the ball as well. Otherwise leave Saka left and move Ødegaard into the left 8 role, and Tielemans/Vieira operating as the right sided 8 to start combining with Raphinha at RW.
The main thing though is that we have options to work with now, and that makes us dangerous.
We're going to have a lot of flexibility in the defence if we sign LM, which I like.
Tierney and Cedric are the traditional fullbacks.
Tomi/White/LM the fullback/CB hybrids.
Saliba/Gabriel/Holding the traditional CBs.
It gives us a lot of tactical variation at the back. Very good group of players there imo.
Tierney and Cedric are the traditional fullbacks.
Tomi/White/LM the fullback/CB hybrids.
Saliba/Gabriel/Holding the traditional CBs.
It gives us a lot of tactical variation at the back. Very good group of players there imo.
I think Saka and Ødegaard both may move over to the left, with Raphinha (if we sign him) on the right. I still think there's a good chance we bring Tielemans in as well for the RCM spot.
Having Ødegaard/Tielemans/Vieira and potentially ESR as advanced 8 options is a massive improvement.
Bloodbather
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Country: Turkey
If Lisandro and Tomiyasu were to be classic full-backs, yes, it's too lightweight in midfield. But they are inverted in this formation, meaning they provide support to the midfield, and they are both strong tacklers.
ArsenesCoatMaker
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2 points I'd add to this is that I don't think we pay 40-50m for a back up and Tierney was not an Arteta buy. Martinez will be an upgrade defensively and in his range of passing.
The other alternative is that Martinez does bench Gabriel because he has so much better passing and we know Arteta values that
Gunnerblog: Arsenal have submitted €40m offer, want him primarily as a LB
Country: England
I think he'll be our Zinchenko tbh. I don't think he'll fully replace KT, but I think we'll rotate the two constantly, same as we will do in attack and midfield with certain players.
Monstar-Gunn4r
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Gabriel was, by his standards, poor coming in to the last part of the season. Martinez favoured position is apparently left centreback, Arteta will drop anyone who is underperforming. I wouldnt make any big assumptions about who is first choice until about 10 matches in to the season.
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