Liverpool FC: Mo Salah, Mo Problems

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Oxeki

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Klopp is leaving after 9 years. Makes me respsct wenger even more. When when Wenger didn't have the same level of players anymore, he stuck around to help build the club and help with the transition to the Emirates. It must have been mentally draining being here 22 years.
 

db10_therza

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Right but he's supposed to be one of their leaders and people have no issue wanking him off when he shrinks in the biggest moments. It's weird to me.

Don’t think anyone’s wanking him off bruce. He’s clearly past his prime but what’s mad to me is the disrespect Liverpool fans are showing him after everything he’s given them. He’s a legend for them and I’m sure after some time they’ll remember that.

Henderson and Milner were also well past their prime at the end of their Liverpool careers, way worse than Salah and never faced the same kind of heat. It was all “thanks for the memories we will always love you but all things come to an end” energy.

Makes you think…
 

Batman

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Don’t think anyone’s wanking him off bruce. He’s clearly past his prime but what’s mad to me is the disrespect Liverpool fans are showing him after everything he’s given them. He’s a legend for them and I’m sure after some time they’ll remember that.

Henderson and Milner were also well past their prime at the end of their Liverpool careers, way worse than Salah and never faced the same kind of heat. It was all “thanks for the memories we will always love you but all things come to an end” energy.

Makes you think…
I don't care about the Liverpool fans. I'm talking about the media in general who will kill a 22 year old Bukayo Saka for struggling and call our players bottlers but forget this guy in his prime letting a shoulder injury take him out of a CL final and totally ignore how he has ghosted this run in. How the Liverpool supporters feel about him is none of my concern. I just want to understand how this player and this team get more of a pass for bottling than we did after we were told they'd win the league because of their experience and because of their match winners like Salah. I have nothing against him personally. I think we all know why there is the difference in characterization among certain elements though. They love stereotypically English mediocrity over Johnny Foreigner.
 

fute

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Within the last 2 weeks, Liverpool went from title contenders, potential treble winners to a Chelsea-like, Man U-like circus on and off the pitch.

Crazy.
 

hydrofluoric acid

Down With the Refereearchy

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When things aren't going well the real Jurgen rears his ugly head and smelly breath. I've said this for years the nice guy act is a front. He'll berate anyone and throw anyone under the bus if things don't go his way.

Great input. AM siding with another nasty character like Klopp should have been the first hint.
 

Sapient Hawk

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Within the last 2 weeks, Liverpool went from title contenders, potential treble winners to a Chelsea-like, Man U-like circus on and off the pitch.

Crazy.

Imagine being on course for a historic quadruple in January to find yourself in the midst of a Ten Hag season by the end of April.

If that's not soul-crushing, I don't know what is.
 

fute

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Country: USA
Imagine being on course for a historic quadruple in January to find yourself in the midst of a Ten Hag season by the end of April.

If that's not soul-crushing, I don't know what is.

And their inability to beat Ten Hag is the catalyst for it.

Even Antony scored a goal against them. 🤣
 

Hleb's Sirush

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Henderson and Milner were also well past their prime at the end of their Liverpool careers, way worse than Salah and never faced the same kind of heat. It was all “thanks for the memories we will always love you but all things come to an end” energy.

Makes you think…
The reason why is because the fan base (not just Liverpool's but any fan base) will always be less harsher on players who have a lot of credit in the bank but are clearly on the decline as long as they seem to be trying their utmost in terms of desire and commitment.

Mo lately is perceived as having checked out. Whether that be his body language, intensity on the field or even a while back comments by his agent. One thing fans get very touchy about is when they feel a player is disrespecting their club. This might not be the reality but when things aren't going great on the pitch perception is everything.

When they saw Henderson near the end getting run past as he wasn't there or grandpa Milner getting skinned time after time at right back, they didn't have any doubt they were ready to die for the shirt. This buys you so much goodwill. Mo Salah they feel would more likely throw the shirt at Klopp's face than die for it.
 

avenellroad

John Radford’s son
I don't care about the Liverpool fans. I'm talking about the media in general who will kill a 22 year old Bukayo Saka for struggling and call our players bottlers but forget this guy in his prime letting a shoulder injury take him out of a CL final and totally ignore how he has ghosted this run in. How the Liverpool supporters feel about him is none of my concern. I just want to understand how this player and this team get more of a pass for bottling than we did after we were told they'd win the league because of their experience and because of their match winners like Salah. I have nothing against him personally. I think we all know why there is the difference in characterization among certain elements though. They love stereotypically English mediocrity over Johnny Foreigner.

That is slightly disingenuous to Salah. He was a major part of the reason why they made that final. Madrid basically took him out of the game.

His stats are absolutely insane for a wide forward. To your broader point, I do think Arsenal as a club are treated differently by the media. We have been admonished as bottlers regardless of the insane run we have been on, even if we finish second to City.
 

db10_therza

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Mo lately is perceived as having checked out. Whether that be his body language, intensity on the field or even a while back comments by his agent. One thing fans get very touchy about is when they feel a player is disrespecting their club. This might not be the reality but when things aren't going great on the pitch perception is everything.

This is my whole point right.

Why is Mo so readily perceived to have “checked out” compared to other players?

Even this season he’s still basically carried their attack on his back and was the reason they were even in the title race in the first place. You should check out the stats of their forwards for this season.

Anyway my question was rhetorical. If Mo Salah was English then there would be a hundred puff pieces by now on how we need to cherish him and remember the good times, maybe something about his mental health, abuse is bad, etc etc
 

Penn_

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Falling behind in over half your games is always likely to be too much in the end.

I don’t really get the Klopp slander you see though. Guy got 90+ points three times and has just a single PL to show for it, insanity.
 

OnlyOne

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Country: England
Falling behind in over half your games is always likely to be too much in the end.

I don’t really get the Klopp slander you see though. Guy got 90+ points three times and has just a single PL to show for it, insanity.

He's such an excellent coach.
 

Riou

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...no way this guy is succeeding in the Prem, tbh.
 

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