Liverpool FC: Mo Salah, Mo Problems

[ArsenalInMyHeart]

Slot won the title last season with Kloop's squad... This year he built his squad himself ...

 

[Rasmi]

Carra is what’s wrong with football media. He’s all about narratives. A week ago city and arsenal were way off city and less than 7 days Liverpool is not a great team cause they lost two games. Their level have been about the same all season. But when the margins goes their way he over praise them and when they don’t he goes hard to the other side

 

[Trilly]

Their fanbase turning faster on Slot than we did on Arteta. And he won the league.

Entiteled bellends.

Tbf they do look very, very bad

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

The Sloylt out stuff is obviously ridiculously premature but I've got a couple of friend who are Liverpool season ticket holders and there were many times last year they weren't happy with Slot's coaching performance but he got away with it

Salah pulled them out of drawing and losing positions A LOT last season

This AM will never admit because they think Slot is second coming of jesus and loved to use him as a stick to beat us with.

But there were many many games last season where Liverpool were awful.

 

[HattoriHanzo]

I'm not saying he won't make it. But look at the number of players that have ripped up the BL and not done so well here - Sancho, Havertz, Werner, Nkunku

What about some other players who came to EPL from Bundes?
De Bruyne, Gundogan, Firmino, Haaland, Aubameyang....

There is no rule, it's all individual, case by case.

 

[BigPoppaPump]

I'm not saying he won't make it. But look at the number of players that have ripped up the BL and not done so well here - Sancho, Havertz, Werner, Nkunku

Havertz is a success in the Premier League though, cant compare him to those others.

 

[outlawz]

They were better off last season when they made no transfers.

This is why I hate the transfer window people treat transfers like they’re trophies before anyone has played.

The no transfer thing was false as well. He bought Chiesa and Mamardashvilli.

 

[Rasmi]

I have come up with genius new name for Florian Wirtz…Florian Worst ha ha

 

[dino bravo]

Alisson will soon break down if they continue to give him so much to do

Just wanna highlight this one

 

[Rex Caudillo]

Carra is what’s wrong with football media. He’s all about narratives. A week ago city and arsenal were way off city and less than 7 days Liverpool is not a great team cause they lost two games. Their level have been about the same all season. But when the margins goes their way he over praise them and when they don’t he goes hard to the other side

He was saying after the City game we couldn’t compete with Liverpool

 

[Batman]

Carra is what’s wrong with football media. He’s all about narratives. A week ago city and arsenal were way off city and less than 7 days Liverpool is not a great team cause they lost two games. Their level have been about the same all season. But when the margins goes their way he over praise them and when they don’t he goes hard to the other side

To be fair, Carragher has been criticizing Liverpool's defense since preseason and he's been consistently critical of the way Liverpool have been playing this season. That's not a new criticism. I have no desire to defend him but the reality is that he hasn't just started criticizing them. He started before the season even kicked off.

As for his characterization of ourselves and City being way off of Liverpool, they had maximum points despite playing poorly and a 5 point gap after just 5 games so yes, for this early stage of the season, we were way off of the points pace that they were setting but things can change quickly.

What's more over the top and much worse is these match commentators fapping themselves into oblivion when they score jammy late goals in stoppage time that is clearly being added to bail them out as well as focusing on Gyokeres' scoring record while Wirtz cost double and has been actively playing against them along with Frimpong and Kirkez.

What's even worse than that is zero criticism outside of Carragher's being leveled at how Liverpool are playing after this man was given half a billion to spend in a single window. It's incredible how much of a topic our spending is but City and Liverpool have both spent more in the last 9 months with somehow no expectation that they should both be better for it and aren't.

 

[Batman]

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

He’s had like 2 good seasons his entire career, for all we know he’ll never be that good again.

Ekitike already looks better than him, spooky times for Isak.

Yeah proper mask off for Isak this summer. Absolute failure doing what he did just for Liverpool. Might understand if it was for Real Madrid but Liverpool? Weak.

 

[Rasmi]

To be fair, Carragher has been criticizing Liverpool's defense since preseason and he's been consistently critical of the way Liverpool have been playing this season. That's not a new criticism. I have no desire to defend him but the reality is that he hasn't just started criticizing them. He started before the season even kicked off.

As for his characterization of ourselves and City being way off of Liverpool, they had maximum points despite playing poorly and a 5 point gap after just 5 games so yes, for this early stage of the season, we were way off of the points pace that they were setting but things can change quickly.

What's more over the top and much worse is these match commentators fapping themselves into oblivion when they score jammy late goals in stoppage time that is clearly being added to bail them out as well as focusing on Gyokeres' scoring record while Wirtz cost double and has been actively playing against them along with Frimpong and Kirkez.

What's even worse than that is zero criticism outside of Carragher's being leveled at how Liverpool are playing after this man was given half a billion to spend in a single window. It's incredible how much of a topic our spending is but City and Liverpool have both spent more in the last 9 months with somehow no expectation that they should both be better for it and aren't.

There’s definitely laziness in football commentary and analytic in media. There’s set narratives they always trying to uphold until they can’t anymore. I actually said in the summer what Liverpool lost in the summer in Nunez and Diaz was great running power that made life easier for Salah. Now Salah looks completely off because no runners is taking players away from him

 

[viktor]

There’s definitely laziness in football commentary and analytic in media. There’s set narratives they always trying to uphold until they can’t anymore. I actually said in the summer what Liverpool lost in the summer in Nunez and Diaz was great running power that made life easier for Salah. Now Salah looks completely off because no runners is taking players away from him

trent, diaz, nunez all those player are killer in transitions to created chance and scored goals from transitions

trent deliver through ball to nunez in transitions with salah waiting in the box then salah scored goals at emirates is the reason we draw 2-2 last season

 

[dino bravo]

There’s definitely laziness in football commentary and analytic in media. There’s set narratives they always trying to uphold until they can’t anymore. I actually said in the summer what Liverpool lost in the summer in Nunez and Diaz was great running power that made life easier for Salah. Now Salah looks completely off because no runners is taking players away from him

Diaz, Nunez, Jota (RIP), Salah was a total menace to deal with. They have lost legs and also chaos/unpredictability.

 

[grange]

@Blood on the Tracks Carra reads AM!

 

[Axel9090]

Honestly, another 22/23 season for Liverpool would be comical.

 

[matthewuk12000]

I rarely post but when its about Liverpool it mainly has a lot of stats. Last season i continually said Liverpool were being carried by Salah. If you took his goals out of the team and replaced him with someone of Saka's goal scoring rate they would have lost many more games. When salah is not in the team they also lose. last season they played PSV (lost) Plymouth (lost) last night they lose with no salah starting.

The next issue is they are relying on a player who is 33 years old who over the last 5 years typically averages 18-23 goals per year, which is still a great return but if you take out last seasons wonder year he is slowly declining and this year he might be reverting back to his typical level. The issue is they gave him 400k+ per week for the next 3 years and expect him to play all games because if they don't Liverpool do struggle.

The same argument can be applied to VVD. They have given a massive contract to a player past his best, he is still very good but should have been replaced. The team which wins the prem league for the last 10 seasons typically concedes approx. 30-35 goals, last season Liverpool won it with 41 goals conceded which is the highest in 10 years. You can only do this if you are scoring lots of goals. Typically over the last 5 seasons Liverpool's defence is between the 4th and 5th best in the league. However they do end up being the second highest goal scorers. If Salah played at his standard level and they lost 10 goals from him they might not have had enough to win the league last season due to their defence.

Now where i am going with this? at the current goalscoring rate Liverpool will score 76 goals this season and concede 44 goals. After 6 games this is really too early to use these as typical trends but the more concerning thing for a Liverpool fan is they are conceding goals against lesser teams. 2 vs palace. 2 vs 10 man Newcastle, 2 vs Bournemouth. 1 vs Everton. to win 2 of those games they relied on injury time winners to turn it around, this isn't title winning form, i almost forgot the Burnley win was a 95th minute salah penalty. Their current performance reminds me of Klopp's last season where it looked like they might win the quad, during this season they were consistently scoring late goals to win games, during the league season they scored 14 goals after the 85th minute which gained them 12 additional points. Liverpool eventually fell away and only won the carabao cup? that year mainly because going to the well game after game is exhausting and not sustainable.

The next month will give us some true trends, Liverpool's matches are a lot tougher than what they have had thus far and should give us a true steer as to how they well they could do this year.

 

[Malky]

I'm not writing him off but when you cost £110m or whatever it was you don't get much of a grace period to settle in, and Wirtz isn't showing much beyond hard work at the moment.

This!
Don’t get this “ you can’t judge a younger player so much when he’s new to the league “ etc.
He’s 22 and cost £110m, yes you ****ing can judge him! You don’t pay that hoping he might come good by Christmas, or even next season, that’s the money you pay for an instant game changer.
However he was rubbish at the end of last season with Leverkusen, but he’s somehow got worse.