Liverpool FC: Mo Salah, Mo Problems

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Synical

Miss Bold Superstitious [B/]

Country: England
Don’t like the guy, but Carragher makes a lot of fair points.
His hatred for Mo is unhinged

He makes a lot of dumb, highly personal attacks, not points.

Why is he calling him a Chelsea reject?

Why is Afcon all of a sudden important when apparently it was irrelevant before, according to him

How can he say he threw his colleagues under the bus for 8 years by not defending? Liverpool would still be on that 30+ year drought for the EPL trophy if it wasn't for Mo. Or at least would only have one, not two

Carragher won no titles for them and had more own goals (7) than goals (3) in 758 matches. No wonder he's bitter
 

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2 PL titles, 1 UCL., 4 x top league scorer joint record with Henry. Two record breaking seasons (goal scoring at the time and contribution)

He's their Thierry Henry.
slot and club so stupid treat him like that especially their recruitment team in summer failed to build squad around salah after trent left, now the result salah struggle become goal machine
 

RunTheTrap

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There is something very sinister about the way Gary Neville and Jamie “I spit on kids” Carragher use their platform to disparage underperforming players for their respective clubs . Gary Neville and his Manc cronies have convinced the public that World Cup winner Paul Pogba is Eric Djemba-Djemba with hair dye. Granted, Pogba never reached his potential, but the circumstances were against him from the beginning, and Neville played a vital role in ensuring Pogba’s time in England was a nightmare. Now it's Phlegmy McPhee’s turn to pile on a Muslim superstar on national TV. Don't forget they tried this **** with Özil, so while we can laugh at Liverpool’s expense, don't forget that it happened to us.

What does Salah’s Egypt career have to do with his poor performances for Liverpool? Didn't he lambast Afcon as a second-rate tournament? **** Carragher, I'm on team Salah. I hope Salah unloads the clip on Carragher the next time a journalist interviews him. I’d bring up the fact that he was a regular on the England team’s bench and is only relevant because he's bestie with the club’s greatest ever player. Really hone in on his inadequacy as a footballer and pundit.
 

Synical

Miss Bold Superstitious [B/]

Country: England
There is something very sinister about the way Gary Neville and Jamie “I spit on kids” Carragher use their platform to disparage underperforming players for their respective clubs . Gary Neville and his Manc cronies have convinced the public that World Cup winner Paul Pogba is Eric Djemba-Djemba with hair dye. Granted, Pogba never reached his potential, but the circumstances were against him from the beginning, and Neville played a vital role in ensuring Pogba’s time in England was a nightmare. Now it's Phlegmy McPhee’s turn to pile on a Muslim superstar on national TV. Don't forget they tried this **** with Özil, so while we can laugh at Liverpool’s expense, don't forget that it happened to us.

What does Salah’s Egypt career have to do with his poor performances for Liverpool? Didn't he lambast Afcon as a second-rate tournament? **** Carragher, I'm on team Salah. I hope Salah unloads the clip on Carragher the next time a journalist interviews him. I’d bring up the fact that he was a regular on the England team’s bench and is only relevant because he's bestie with the club’s greatest ever player. Really hone in on his inadequacy as a footballer and pundit.
Phlegmy McPhee...I'm definitely stealing that 🤭
 

2Smokeyy

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Country: England
Carragher is a pure and utter scumbag. The whole thing about him calling out Salah for not helping other players like Wirtz, Isak etc and not doing what Gerrard, Rush and Barnes did towards the end of their careers was comical. It’s a team game, sure but this isn’t the case of a young player coming out of the academy, both signings were established stars before signing for Liverpool and they broke the British transfer record consecutively with them so they were viewed as two difference makers who would come in and hit the ground running.

Like @RunTheTrap said, I get they have to analyse games as it’s their job as a pundit but the way Carragher and Gary Neville in particular use their platform to personally attack players is nothing short of a disgrace. They’ve done this for years and nobody has really called them out. One thing I found so petty was when he made the whole “Salah threw the Liverpool right back under the bus for the past 8 years” comment when he was same person ripping through TAA for moving to Madrid and directing the blame whenever there’s a defensive error, I didn’t hear him mention Salah then as he was scoring goals and bailing them out. Very convenient, isn’t it?

I guess it all comes down to convenience and clubs running things like a corporate machine. When a player dips below their usual level clubs/pundits flip the whole thing instantly. All those years of performing at a high level don’t matter and the vultures circle to find a scapegoat. So when fans expect loyalty from players - why should players be loyal when the loyalty disappears the moment it’s no longer convenient?
 

Rex Caudillo

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Carragher is a pure and utter scumbag. The whole thing about him calling out Salah for not helping other players like Wirtz, Isak etc and not doing what Gerrard, Rush and Barnes did towards the end of their careers was comical. It’s a team game, sure but this isn’t the case of a young player coming out of the academy, both signings were established stars before signing for Liverpool and they broke the British transfer record consecutively with them so they were viewed as two difference makers who would come in and hit the ground running.

Like @RunTheTrap said, I get they have to analyse games as it’s their job as a pundit but the way Carragher and Gary Neville in particular use their platform to personally attack players is nothing short of a disgrace. They’ve done this for years and nobody has really called them out. One thing I found so petty was when he made the whole “Salah threw the Liverpool right back under the bus for the past 8 years” comment when he was same person ripping through TAA for moving to Madrid and directing the blame whenever there’s a defensive error, I didn’t hear him mention Salah then as he was scoring goals and bailing them out. Very convenient, isn’t it?

I guess it all comes down to convenience and clubs running things like a corporate machine. When a player dips below their usual level clubs/pundits flip the whole thing instantly. All those years of performing at a high level don’t matter and the vultures circle to find a scapegoat. So when fans expect loyalty from players - why should players be loyal when the loyalty disappears the moment it’s no longer convenient?

So embarrassing when they sound off on Monday Night Football like a political rally.

Always making it about them. Pair of bellends.
 
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Bloodbather

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Country: Turkiye
Saw Carra's speech as hit-and-miss, personally.

I think he was mostly right about his criticisms of Salah's statement and his way of making public statements to force moves instead of keeping it internal. Also right to point out that he was already getting special treatment as the star by being allowed to give less effort defensively.

Went too far when evaluating his career overall, though. The Chelsea flop snide was unnecessary, Salah had gone up to a different level with Roma already. Giving Liverpool the club the credit for Salah's career rise is a massive reach, Liverpool the club wasn't in a great place when Salah joined, Klopp was in the initial stage of transforming them and it was Salah that took them to a different level. Then they added Van Dijk and Alisson to go up another level. The "he's been throwing Liverpool under the bus for 8 years" point was just flagrant. It negates saying he's a club legend.

The Egypt argument was fine but a clumsily made one. The 'you can't win by yourself' point is fine, but saying Egypt had won before Salah and didn't win with Salah the way he said it made it seem like he was blaming Salah for it, though the intent was to say the opposite I think, that it was the team that decided it. The tone should've been different. Salah did elevate those Egypt teams greatly as an individual player even if it didn't result in a trophy.

"I've never criticized Salah on the pitch" thing was nonsense as well and wasn't even needed. Just put his foot in his mouth there and got instantly called out by the presenter anyway.
 
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Makingtrax

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Country: England

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Carragher is a pure and utter scumbag. The whole thing about him calling out Salah for not helping other players like Wirtz, Isak etc and not doing what Gerrard, Rush and Barnes did towards the end of their careers was comical. It’s a team game, sure but this isn’t the case of a young player coming out of the academy, both signings were established stars before signing for Liverpool and they broke the British transfer record consecutively with them so they were viewed as two difference makers who would come in and hit the ground running.

Like @RunTheTrap said, I get they have to analyse games as it’s their job as a pundit but the way Carragher and Gary Neville in particular use their platform to personally attack players is nothing short of a disgrace. They’ve done this for years and nobody has really called them out. One thing I found so petty was when he made the whole “Salah threw the Liverpool right back under the bus for the past 8 years” comment when he was same person ripping through TAA for moving to Madrid and directing the blame whenever there’s a defensive error, I didn’t hear him mention Salah then as he was scoring goals and bailing them out. Very convenient, isn’t it?

I guess it all comes down to convenience and clubs running things like a corporate machine. When a player dips below their usual level clubs/pundits flip the whole thing instantly. All those years of performing at a high level don’t matter and the vultures circle to find a scapegoat. So when fans expect loyalty from players - why should players be loyal when the loyalty disappears the moment it’s no longer convenient?
This! I can never understand why fans or pundits turn on players that move away who have given years of service. Particularly if they go to non rival teams in other leagues/countries or lower teams with less money. TAA was vilified. Even worse if they go because they’re not guaranteed first team places.That always seemed more than fair. The comments on AM about Martinez after staying for 10 years to try and earn a first team place were very similar.

I think it’s a bit like Reform voters and road ragers there’ll always be the badly behaved section of society, quick to turn just because they love the opportunity to spew hate.
 

Majora

No Longer Alive If Patrick Timmons Has 0 Haters

Country: Scotland
This one always stands out to me as a really weird one from Carragher that went under the radar. Like the sort of thing that someone says because they support the losing club and are hurting but comes across as very out of nowhere here.

People love the CBS coverage and I can understand why but I find them so so unbelievably false and playing up for the cameras, especially Carragher. Started out good but they just keep pushing it now

 

Rasmi

Prophet of Doom

Country: England
The segment was down right unprofessional. He took several personal digs at him. He’s not only the ex Liverpool player who has done it and used Gerrard as great example of Liverpool hero. The guy the Liverpool underground gangsters had to threaten to stay at the club
 

Kuroske

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I’d say with Ronaldo, he went very rogue with his statement. The likes of Van Dijk feel Salah should still be in the squad, I think Salah has greater alignment with the rest of the dressing room. I see Slot going very soon.



No player is bigger than the club. It is time to rebuild. Sell the players who sides with Salah. I suspect that the Salah supporters mostly constist of the champion team. VVD, Konate, Becker and Robertson. Sell them all.
 

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